Which is better to keep Greenie or Grey Shopsmith?

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Which is better to keep Greenie or Grey Shopsmith?

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Hi all
I have recently acquired a "Greenie" Shopsmith with basically all the tools and acc. I could want.
I already had a Grey one possibly from the 70's, and I am trying to decide which of the main system to sell, Ill keep all the tools and accessories that I need to work but I would be selling the main motor and stand as well as a planer and probably a band saw.
So my question is in the forums opinion which one would be better to keep?
I love that the "green has everything and is basically a "set", but the grey one is so much newer, and has a slightly different drive system. I think shopsmith has a reputation for reliability thats not found in many companies today. But i still think the newer motor might be better in the long run.

Thoughts?

My current situation!

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Re: Which is better to keep Greenie or Grey Shopsmith?

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Keep the grey Shopsmith. It has the Poly-V drive and 1 1/8 HP motor. These 2 items are worth keeping the later Shopsmith. Why not make the earlier Shopsmith a MINI, cut the way tubes to 25 5/8" and no carriage and use it as a Power Station for two SPTs you will be using. The 3/4 HP motor is great for this purpose. This really cuts down on change over and set up times.
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Bill's advice is mine as well. If you can keep it whole, do so,as it gives you double function of everything. If you just don't have the room, make a mini, or as a last resort :rolleyes: perma-mount it to the wall as a dedicated Drill press.

If you have never worked having two SS's available to you, try it.... I think you will like the function.

JMHO :D
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Re: Which is better to keep Greenie or Grey Shopsmith?

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billmayo wrote:Keep the grey Shopsmith. It has the Poly-V drive and 1 1/8 HP motor. These 2 items are worth keeping the later Shopsmith. Why not make the earlier Shopsmith a MINI, cut the way tubes to 25 5/8" and no carriage and use it as a Power Station for two SPTs you will be using. The 3/4 HP motor is great for this purpose. This really cuts down on change over and set up times.
Great Idea, hadn't thought of that.
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Re: Which is better to keep Greenie or Grey Shopsmith?

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rjent wrote:Bill's advice is mine as well. If you can keep it whole, do so,as it gives you double function of everything. If you just don't have the room, make a mini, or as a last resort :rolleyes: perma-mount it to the wall as a dedicated Drill press.

If you have never worked having two SS's available to you, try it.... I think you will like the function.

JMHO :D
Great advise, thanks so much for the ideas!
Room is at a premium in my garage. So now on to looking into "mini" and or "Permanent Press"
Thanks again.
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Re: Which is better to keep Greenie or Grey Shopsmith?

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There's no way I would let either of those go! They look too nice!

Before you do any cutting, Someone here tried EMT conduit. Ask around before cutting your original tubes...

I would do as the others have already stated and turn the Grennie into a mini.

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I 5 or 6 it, make a mini with conduit, depending on usage, BS on one end disc sander on the other, jointer, not a planer as you called it on the gray one.
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Re: Which is better to keep Greenie or Grey Shopsmith?

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Different MINI Shopsmith set up displays. Check the configurations pictured by Shopsmith's Shopsmith Shop Deputy Work Center Conversion Kit (http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... deputy.htm).
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Re: Which is better to keep Greenie or Grey Shopsmith?

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The first ? is, what can you get for 'one' of them. Then ask yourself what is it worth to you. I think the second answer is a larger number.

Since it is a greenie that you may consider shortening etc. be aware the bench tubes are a larger od than the way tubes.

IIWM, I would not cut any of the original tubes. A pair of way tubes cut 25 5/8 \ 26 3/8 or bench tubes cut 26 \\ 26 3/4 will make a mini. The smaller tubes will fit the greenie castings, but the bench tube spacing will be a bit(1/8") wide. A shim could be used to eliminate that.

Other than the band saw, what 'duplicates' do you have?
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Re: Which is better to keep Greenie or Grey Shopsmith?

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It looks like you are a turner, the gray machine belt will handle a "'catch" much better then the Greenie. I have 3 BS 2 SS and a Delta, all set up with different size blades, no readjusting because I dont have to change blades, 1/4"' on one 3/8s on an other, and on the Delta which has a riser and 12"' of resaw capacity a 1/2"'. But it is all what works for you, and what you use the most/least.
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