Laughs and Giggles

[dusty]

davebodner,
you want to have something in your memory's/night mares, a Chinook Helicopter with a pilot and co pilot and 45 Marines on it, it got hit by a surface to air missile, MPG, go down and in a burning mass and listen to the screams.
I did.

Maybe your memory, like mine, is getting just a little bit foggy. I never worked a Chinook but I thought the crew capacity on a standard combat equipped Chinook was 36.

The capacity is what ever will fit under extreme need.

Very true if you don't have to lift it up in the air.

[ERLover]

Weight is the limit, 90 kids that weigh half as much as an adult!!

[ERLover]

Out of here for a bit to watch the debate.

[algale]

I don't claim to be an expert, and maybe the difference is insignificant, but it appears the Army used the Chinook while the Marines used a similar but smaller helicopter, with less capacity, called the Sea Knight. http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft ... aft_id=176

[ERLover]

Crew: three (pilot, copilot, flight engineer)
Capacity:
33–55 troops or
24 litters and 3 attendants or
28,000 lb (12,700 kg) cargo
Length: 52 ft. fuselage, 98 ft 10 in. with rotors[107] (30.1 m)
Rotor diameter: 60 ft 0 in (18.3 m)
Height: 18 ft 11 in (5.7 m)
Disc area: 5,600 ft2 (520 m2)
Empty weight: 23,400 lb (10,185 kg)
Loaded weight: 26,680 lb (12,100 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (22,680 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Lycoming T55-GA-714A turboshaft, 4,733 hp (3,529 kW) each

Performance

Maximum speed: 170 knots (196 mph, 315 km/h)
Cruise speed: 130 kt (149 mph, 240 km/h)
Range: 400 nmi (450 mi, 741 km)
Combat radius: 200 nmi (230 mi, 370 km)
Ferry range: 1,216 nmi (1,400 mi, 2,252 km[108])
Service ceiling: 18,500 ft (5,640 m)

[ERLover]

The debate is as good as SNL 3 hours later, cant wait for that if they pic up on the debate tonight.
Based on ages here, I am sure some of you real seniors might have been in WW2, and some in Korea, and seen and did many unforgettable things, that we were not prepared for, growing up. The middle age and youngens here, Vietnam and Middle East.

[JPG]

Maybe your memory, like mine, is getting just a little bit foggy. I never worked a Chinook but I thought the crew capacity on a standard combat equipped Chinook was 36.

The capacity is what ever will fit under extreme need.

Very true if you don't have to lift it up in the air.

Under duress one takes 'advantage' of safety factor over 'normal' limits.

Yes it be fruitless to exceed 'actual' capability.

[skou]

davebodner,
you want to have something in your memory's/night mares, a Chinook Helicopter with a pilot and co pilot and 45 Marines on it, it got hit by a surface to air missile, MPG, go down and in a burning mass and listen to the screams.
I did.

Maybe your memory, like mine, is getting just a little bit foggy. I never worked a Chinook but I thought the crew capacity on a standard combat equipped Chinook was 36.

Dusty, I DID work on Chinooks, but not overseas. (Unless someone considers Fort Sill OK a foreign place.)

If memory serves me, a CH47-B will hold 33 passengers, sitting on the "Boeing Hilton" red fold-down seats
along the sides. It will also hold a full-sized 1980's Chevy Blazer or 2, in between the seats.

I firmly believe, that in an extraction move, in a war footing, 45 or MORE people will fit in the well-loved
S#!+ Hook!

Crew: three (pilot, copilot, flight engineer)
Capacity:
33–55 troops or
24 litters and 3 attendants or
28,000 lb (12,700 kg) cargo

Copied from here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CH-47_Chinook

While I don't always trust Wikipedia, especially on non-factual stuff, their
aircraft info has been quite correct for me.

Ok, now it gets personal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OSO8-iu9Ks

This aircraft was one of 8 my unit had. One of the pilots, Ron Bender,
had a Mark 5 or V (Can't remember which.) I had my first Model 10, so we
were friends. he also had one of those 3 cylinder BMW bikes, which, when
put on its sidestand, had the sparkplugs slightly leaning downhill. Some of the
other pilots would dribble oil on the pavement, under the engine, just to mess
with him.

Both pilots, and the flight engineer (E6) didn't make it. Crew Chief BARELY
got home alive. Paul Patricio had burns over 60% of his body.

I can't believe I remembered those 2 names. The rest are here.

https://www.wcmessenger.com/2014/news/f ... t-tragedy/

Oh, the same day, my wife was arriving from spending a week at Brooke, trying to see
if a heart bypass would help her out. It wouldn't, and she would go into congestive heart
failure later that night. Luckily, I had a friend that was chief of cardiology at Ft Sill's
hospital, and we got her there in time. (He met me at the ER entrance.) I found out
about the crash, on CNN, in the hospital waiting room.

My wife lasted almost another year, and I was ETS in a week.

steve

[algale]

ERLover,

Did you really do multiple tours in the Vietnam War, earn multiple Purple Hearts and those other decorations and see the horrible things you say you saw?

Because there used to be a guy who called himself Wild Bad Bob on this forum who said he did his three tours in Canada and didn't get maimed at all in the Vietnam War. http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... 96#p175796

And I know that you and Wild Bad Bob are the same guy with a different user name.

For the record I have never served in the military. I admire those that did, but I don't think very highly of folks who claim valor they did not earn to try to win internet arguments.

I'm still waiting for an answer.

[skou]

Al, I'm pretty sure this is NOT Big Bad Bob, or, even Wild Bad Bob.

Bob used to call me quite frequently, and so far, Lover hasn't.

Besides, Bob only had ER stuff.

steve