First shopsmith 10ER / First lathe

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First shopsmith 10ER / First lathe

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Like the title says I am a newbie to this entire woodturning community! I am picking up a 10ER next week! I am looking to turn
Bowls, cups, candle sticks ect! I have a couple questions:
1.is there any area I need to really look at when going to pick it up? Belts ect

2. I am looking to make some blanks to practice with 2x4s (cheap)
Is just generally wood glue ok or is there a special glue I need to
Get to glue them together to make different size blanks?

3. Safety equipment glasses, faceshield, dust mask anything else?

4. Any other advice is greatly appreciated!

I am doing this as a hobby and something I can pass along to my baby
Boy!

Thanks again for your time!
Miller
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Jeepmiller09 wrote:Like the title says I am a newbie to this entire woodturning community! I am picking up a 10ER next week! I am looking to turn
Bowls, cups, candle sticks ect! I have a couple questions: WELCOME!
1.is there any area I need to really look at when going to pick it up? Belts ect BELT(S) ARE QUITE VISIBLE AND RUST

2. I am looking to make some blanks to practice with 2x4s (cheap)
Is just generally wood glue ok or is there a special glue I need to
Get to glue them together to make different size blanks? JUST ABOUT ANY WOOD GLUE WILL WORK - LET DRY THOUOUGHLY

3. Safety equipment glasses, faceshield, dust mask anything else? *

4. Any other advice is greatly appreciated! READ UP ON THE TASK

I am doing this as a hobby and something I can pass along to my baby
Boy!

Thanks again for your time!
Miller

* Always manually rotate the workpiece after any adjustments"(workpiece or tool rest etc.) before applying power.
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Be careful of unsound wood. Anything with any cracks or splits really should not be turned. Start with a small project such as a bowl not more than 4" in Dia. If you glue up a blank make sure you cover the entire gluing surfaces with glue. No Voids. The voids will most likely cause catches and damaged work pieces. Glue must cure for 24 hrs at least to ensure complete curing. Possibly 48 hrs on larger pieces. Go to the following web page and check for the beginners section. Look in the "find a chapter near you and if you find one go to a meeting. Woodturners are a very generous lot with info
http://www.woodturner.org/
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Thank you so much for all the information!!! I am soaking it all in!!
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Note: the harder the wood the easier it is to turn. Fir 2x4 is about the worst. Softer wood tends to be more stringy and pulls rather than cuts.
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You mentioned personal safety equipment: I prefer a full face shield. I have had many chips and other pieces fly toward my face. Another item that I always use is a respirator. I forgot to wear it once while cutting Masonite and I deeply regret that action, or lack thereof. If you get a dust collector, it is still advisable to wear some sort of mask. The expensive way to go is the face shield with the filter. Else, you can purchase a full face shield for about $20 and the respirator for about $40. My doctor told me yesterday, that I must always wear my respirator while woodworking or cleaning any wood dust. My lungs are trying to recover, but not sure they will.

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Miller, OK some tips about looking at an ER, (or Model 10, as I like to call them.)

Pop the belt off, and spin the headstock assembly. Feel how it turns. (Note, ALL
4 of those bearings are replaceable, so don't worry.) Spin the motor, again feeling
for bearing sounds. (These bearings are more difficult, but STILL replaceable.)

Now, look for rust. Fixable, but it IS a bargaining chip. (As are the bearings above.)

Next, look for added bennies. Speedchanger, (you WANT one for doing lathe work!)
lathe chisels, jigsaw, flip-down jointer, lower saw guard, in short any of the hard-to-
find stuff. Note, if you find an A or B adapter, just ask me for my address. Part of
your initiation fee! (Not really!)

On to lathe work.
The rest of these guys won't like me saying this, but the Model 10 is the best lathe
in the Shopsmith garage! (Also, the best drill-press, both modes, Hz and Vert.)
Get a speed changer, so you get low speed abilities.

As to wood, I've found that Doug Fir is a GREAT teacher. EVERY FAULT will show up
INSTANTLY! Personally, I like hardwoods. Walnut turns BEAUTIFULLY! So does Koa.
Yes, they're expensive.

Find a construction site, get their scrap cut-off 2X4s, rip them into 2X2s, and try
your hand at spindle work. Get a CLEAN 4X4 from the big-box store, and try it.

Do NOT glue-up construction-grade wood. Isn't worth your time, and it could
be landing in your mouth. (At 400 RPM, or more.)

steve
10 ER, stripped down.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.

Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
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skou wrote:Miller, OK some tips about looking at an ER, (or Model 10, as I like to call them.)

Pop the belt off, and spin the headstock assembly. Feel how it turns. (Note, ALL
4 of those bearings are replaceable, so don't worry.) Spin the motor, again feeling
for bearing sounds. (These bearings are more difficult, but STILL replaceable.)

Now, look for rust. Fixable, but it IS a bargaining chip. (As are the bearings above.)

Next, look for added bennies. Speedchanger, (you WANT one for doing lathe work!)
lathe chisels, jigsaw, flip-down jointer, lower saw guard, in short any of the hard-to-
find stuff. Note, if you find an A or B adapter, just ask me for my address. Part of
your initiation fee! (Not really!)

On to lathe work.
The rest of these guys won't like me saying this, but the Model 10 is the best lathe
in the Shopsmith garage! (Also, the best drill-press, both modes, Hz and Vert.)
Get a speed changer, so you get low speed abilities.

As to wood, I've found that Doug Fir is a GREAT teacher. EVERY FAULT will show up
INSTANTLY! Personally, I like hardwoods. Walnut turns BEAUTIFULLY! So does Koa.
Yes, they're expensive.

Find a construction site, get their scrap cut-off 2X4s, rip them into 2X2s, and try
your hand at spindle work. Get a CLEAN 4X4 from the big-box store, and try it.

Do NOT glue-up construction-grade wood. Isn't worth your time, and it could
be landing in your mouth. (At 400 RPM, or more.)

steve
Wow thank you!! So your saying the blank I made out of a 2x4 cut into 6 sections and glued together I should just rip into 2x2!
Thank you for your time
Brian Miller
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If you have a day or two of free time you might benefit from my experiences. http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/begin ... 11954.html
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I suggest ripping a 2x4 into two 1 1/2 x 1 1/2 and a 1 1/2 x 1/4. ;)

Then cut to length. :)
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