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Re: Power Stand out of production?

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I am 65 and have no trouble. With that said, I will use/build a hoist for future use. .... :D

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dusty wrote:I don't know why they are currently out-of-production. If you need to know, I would suggest a call to Customer Service.

I also do not know why there are different versions. Knowing what they are, I can imagine why the top plates may differ but everything else seems to be the same (motor excepted). This could be important if you shopped for one and ebay.
They are all 1/2HP motors except the planer. They all have the same SPT mounting base/storage base to mount the SPT except the planer. I suspect the reason they all have a different part number is because the supplied pulleys are different depending on which SPT the stand is designed to be used with.
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Re: Power Stand out of production?

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According to Grizzly, helical heads require MORE HP because it is a constant cut, not a cut, skip, cut, skip as the parallel knives have a space between engagement, where helical is cutting continually, that is how they explained the did difference in HD between the 2, helical higher HP.
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jjbuzard wrote:According to Grizzly, helical heads require MORE HP because it is a constant cut, not a cut, skip, cut, skip as the parallel knives have a space between engagement, where helical is cutting continually, that is how they explained the did difference in HD between the 2, helical higher HP.
Perhaps, but how wide is the effective cutting at any given moment? I believe it is not equal to the full width of the workpiece. Those helixes have space as well.
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Looks like I may have another project down the road for the planer. I suppose I can just keep 3 shopsmith units, one to run the planer specifically. :)

At least until I can rig myself a suitable DIY stand/motor assembly for the shopsmith planer.

As for those that are aging gracefully into their sixth decade and beyond. I have some early lower back issues due to early degenerative arthritis from trauma when I was a young un'.

Just as an aside, I am an anesthesiologist with pain management subspecialty fellowship training so I know how these things generally tend to progress so anything I can do early on to try to decrease the load on my back joints and other load bearing joints, I will try to do, so that I too can age gracefully as some of you lucky fellas. 60-70 pounds is not so bad in terms of weight, but it's the cumbersome dimensions that poses more of the problem. Being only 5'9" with a short wing span, it's not easy to grasp the unit and haul it without significantly loading my lower back. All of the other add-on units tend to be easily grasped and maneuvered into position however the planer is just unwieldy to move around freely.

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Sazerac81 wrote:...however the planer is just unwieldy to move around freely.
You can say that again, John. I'm looking to build the ShopSmith "Under-the-Mark V" Cabinet from the May / June '82 issue of Hands On, and I'm hoping to be able to tweak the design to allow me to keep the planer on the bottom shelf (the width with the feed motor might be an issue), in order to add some significant weight to the ShopSmith itself (hey--I don't use the planer often and why not add some stability?).

That doesn't help your situation. I, too, am only 5'9" and weigh a solid 120 lbs. (high metabolism, what can I say?), so hauling around a planer that's half my body weight is no picnic.

While not immediately what you are looking for, Power Tool Woodworking For Everyone has a plan for a stand for the Mark V mounted planer, which you could modify to even put on casters with brakes. That doesn't solve the problem of hoisting it over to your Mark V for mounting, but might make it a lot shorter trip--wheel it over to your Mark V and just a small move from the stand to the way tubes. Or it might give you some inspiration, at least, for building your own powered stand.

I couldn't find it in 4th edition when I took a quick look, but I know Revised Edition has it. I'll post a picture tonight when I get home.
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120 lbs, good lord! I feel for you man. I weight in at a beastly 145 pounds in comparison. However, I hope you don't have any back issues like me!

Unfortunately, us non-herculean woodworkers need to figure out ways to heft around some of the heavier woodworking equipment we use, but problem solving is half the fun in this hobby. :)

The major decision point is whether to DIY a stand with DIY motor assembly since that will take a bit more planning or just stuff it on a moveable stand where the height of the stand is about the equal to the height of the shopsmith way bars. Moving it a few inches is nowhere as bad as trying to haul it many feet from off a shelf to the shopsmith.

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Sazerac81 wrote: I hope you don't have any back issues like me!
I won't say I have *no* back issues, but I don't currently have *your* back issues, so that is something. Side note, I tried gaining weight in earnest once, maybe 7 or 8 years go. Was doing GOMAD (Gallon Of (whole) Milk A Day) and doing some olympic lifts on the (wooden!) power rack I built. So, with the milk, probably on a good 5k calories a day. Gained 10 pounds reasonably quickly; conceptually it was working. Then shoulder injury, stopped me in my tracks, and the GOMAD had the side effect of shoving me squarely into a permanently lactose intolerant state. :(

Anyway, I'll get the pic up for the DIY stand tonight, in case you decide to go that route. If I weren't planning to stow mine under the SS, I'd go that direction myself. I might find, if I'm using it more, that I will build a stand and throw the second jointer and second bandsaw under the SS for weight instead. Decisions, decisions...
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If you always place the SS in one spot to change SPTs, a bock and tackle pulley system could be used to move them. A sling under the SPT that could be removed or is out of the way when operating them is an option in place of eye bolts used to attach it to the block and tackle. A track system for the top pulley is also possible to move items from one side of the shop to the other or into a vehicle. Depending on how many pulleys were used the weight could be significantly reduced using this method.
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As I used to tell my subordinates and employees, never set something down, just to have to pick it up again. Back last only so long, wife had degenerative disc and passed it on to one of my sons. Not nice at a long age.
I go for the permanent mount of the planer, make 1 of the SS a shorty just for it, less dicking around then making a stand and getting a motor, and use the other side for a SPT station.IMHO
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