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Mark 5A vs Mark 5B

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Hi All

I bought the sharpening tool for the SS which uses the disk sander. Before I can completely install it I must know the difference between the Mark 5A vs Mark 5B. I have a used 1973 and it's a Mark V according to the name plate. The nameplate does not indicate whether it's a version A or B.

How can I tell?

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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B

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GeorgeM wrote:Hi All

I bought the sharpening tool for the SS which uses the disk sander. Before I can completely install it I must know the difference between the Mark 5A vs Mark 5B. I have a used 1973 and it's a Mark V according to the name plate. The nameplate does not indicate whether it's a version A or B.

How can I tell?

Thanks

GeorgeM
I am inclined to say a "B", but I do not understand why it would make a difference. How is the 'installation' different?
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B

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I'm with JPG. I assume that is referring to the headstock casting designation, which I would assume is a "B" given the year cited, but if it's the sharpening tool I'm thinking of, I don't know how the casting would affect its installation or use. I know the lathe chisel sharpening is done on the aux table, so I could see how a 500 vs. a 510 / 520 would make a difference, possibly.
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B

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reubenjames wrote:I'm with JPG. I assume that is referring to the headstock casting designation, which I would assume is a "B" given the year cited, but if it's the sharpening tool I'm thinking of, I don't know how the casting would affect its installation or use. I know the lathe chisel sharpening is done on the aux table, so I could see how a 500 vs. a 510 / 520 would make a difference, possibly.
There is a template for drilling the mounting holes in the extension table. There are various lines on the template and some are indicated as "A" and some "B".

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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B

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GeorgeM wrote:
reubenjames wrote:I'm with JPG. I assume that is referring to the headstock casting designation, which I would assume is a "B" given the year cited, but if it's the sharpening tool I'm thinking of, I don't know how the casting would affect its installation or use. I know the lathe chisel sharpening is done on the aux table, so I could see how a 500 vs. a 510 / 520 would make a difference, possibly.
There is a template for drilling the mounting holes in the extension table. There are various lines on the template and some are indicated as "A" and some "B".

GeorgeM
There are two versions of the extension table(wide[7.5"] and narrow[4"]).

I assume a/b refers to that.

A pix or scan of the instruction drawing would help.
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B

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JPG beat me to it. Might have something in instructions about 500 vs 505+ table size. Then again, given some of Mother's instructions, it might not. :p
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B

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Sorry it took so long, but I'll try and attach a scan here.

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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B

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The A is referenced to the narrow extension table that came standard on the 500 machines. You can upgrade to a wider table which is referenced as a B. See here:

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ntable.htm


The template has lines to use if you have an A or a B or if you have a 510/520.

What I did was to mount the device on a piece of plywood and simply clamped it to the table if and when I wanted to use it. I used dowels for location so it just set in place and was located.

I never like drilling holes in my shopsmith tables but of course it can be done that way and it will work fine.

I think there is a picture here somewhere of mine mounted on the plywood and I'll see if I can find it if there is interest or I could simply just take another picture....

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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B

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It appears the "A" and "B" refer to the narrow(4"/A) and wide(7.5"/B) extension tables.

It also appears Ed just said that.
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B

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Here is another post on this general subject and it contains a couple of pictures of my mounting method.

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/maint ... t2801.html

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