Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
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Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
Hi All
I bought the sharpening tool for the SS which uses the disk sander. Before I can completely install it I must know the difference between the Mark 5A vs Mark 5B. I have a used 1973 and it's a Mark V according to the name plate. The nameplate does not indicate whether it's a version A or B.
How can I tell?
Thanks
GeorgeM
I bought the sharpening tool for the SS which uses the disk sander. Before I can completely install it I must know the difference between the Mark 5A vs Mark 5B. I have a used 1973 and it's a Mark V according to the name plate. The nameplate does not indicate whether it's a version A or B.
How can I tell?
Thanks
GeorgeM
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
I am inclined to say a "B", but I do not understand why it would make a difference. How is the 'installation' different?GeorgeM wrote:Hi All
I bought the sharpening tool for the SS which uses the disk sander. Before I can completely install it I must know the difference between the Mark 5A vs Mark 5B. I have a used 1973 and it's a Mark V according to the name plate. The nameplate does not indicate whether it's a version A or B.
How can I tell?
Thanks
GeorgeM
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
I'm with JPG. I assume that is referring to the headstock casting designation, which I would assume is a "B" given the year cited, but if it's the sharpening tool I'm thinking of, I don't know how the casting would affect its installation or use. I know the lathe chisel sharpening is done on the aux table, so I could see how a 500 vs. a 510 / 520 would make a difference, possibly.
Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
There is a template for drilling the mounting holes in the extension table. There are various lines on the template and some are indicated as "A" and some "B".reubenjames wrote:I'm with JPG. I assume that is referring to the headstock casting designation, which I would assume is a "B" given the year cited, but if it's the sharpening tool I'm thinking of, I don't know how the casting would affect its installation or use. I know the lathe chisel sharpening is done on the aux table, so I could see how a 500 vs. a 510 / 520 would make a difference, possibly.
GeorgeM
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
There are two versions of the extension table(wide[7.5"] and narrow[4"]).GeorgeM wrote:There is a template for drilling the mounting holes in the extension table. There are various lines on the template and some are indicated as "A" and some "B".reubenjames wrote:I'm with JPG. I assume that is referring to the headstock casting designation, which I would assume is a "B" given the year cited, but if it's the sharpening tool I'm thinking of, I don't know how the casting would affect its installation or use. I know the lathe chisel sharpening is done on the aux table, so I could see how a 500 vs. a 510 / 520 would make a difference, possibly.
GeorgeM
I assume a/b refers to that.
A pix or scan of the instruction drawing would help.
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
JPG beat me to it. Might have something in instructions about 500 vs 505+ table size. Then again, given some of Mother's instructions, it might not. 

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1985 Mark V upgraded to 520 and Power Pro (SN 000527)
1983 Mark V Shop Deputy (SN 163487)
1982 Mark V headstock (SN 122265)
1949 (?) 10 ER in transition to dedicated drill press (SN 18677)
11" Band Saw (Aluminum Table System upgrade) (SN 34026)
4" Jointer (SN 02-18-98)
6" Belt Sander (SN 19012)
18" Jig Saw (SN 17407)
20" Scroll Saw (SN 010593)
12" Thickness Planer (SN 10406)
Strip Sander (SN pending)
DC3300 Dust Collector (SN 102088)
1985 Mark V upgraded to 520 and Power Pro (SN 000527)
1983 Mark V Shop Deputy (SN 163487)
1982 Mark V headstock (SN 122265)
1949 (?) 10 ER in transition to dedicated drill press (SN 18677)
11" Band Saw (Aluminum Table System upgrade) (SN 34026)
4" Jointer (SN 02-18-98)
6" Belt Sander (SN 19012)
18" Jig Saw (SN 17407)
20" Scroll Saw (SN 010593)
12" Thickness Planer (SN 10406)
Strip Sander (SN pending)
DC3300 Dust Collector (SN 102088)
Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
Sorry it took so long, but I'll try and attach a scan here.
GeorgeM
Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
The A is referenced to the narrow extension table that came standard on the 500 machines. You can upgrade to a wider table which is referenced as a B. See here:
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ntable.htm
The template has lines to use if you have an A or a B or if you have a 510/520.
What I did was to mount the device on a piece of plywood and simply clamped it to the table if and when I wanted to use it. I used dowels for location so it just set in place and was located.
I never like drilling holes in my shopsmith tables but of course it can be done that way and it will work fine.
I think there is a picture here somewhere of mine mounted on the plywood and I'll see if I can find it if there is interest or I could simply just take another picture....
Ed
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ntable.htm
The template has lines to use if you have an A or a B or if you have a 510/520.
What I did was to mount the device on a piece of plywood and simply clamped it to the table if and when I wanted to use it. I used dowels for location so it just set in place and was located.
I never like drilling holes in my shopsmith tables but of course it can be done that way and it will work fine.
I think there is a picture here somewhere of mine mounted on the plywood and I'll see if I can find it if there is interest or I could simply just take another picture....
Ed
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
It appears the "A" and "B" refer to the narrow(4"/A) and wide(7.5"/B) extension tables.
It also appears Ed just said that.
It also appears Ed just said that.
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Re: Mark 5A vs Mark 5B
Here is another post on this general subject and it contains a couple of pictures of my mounting method.
http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/maint ... t2801.html
Ed
http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/maint ... t2801.html
Ed
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