dusty wrote:Just to verify what is being discussed here. This is the set of brackets that Shopsmith sells and the fold away/drop down outfeed table is NOT what they were designed for. I have a pair that I very seldom use anymore. I made my own for the outfeed table.
This is a sketch of the brackets that I made from aluminum angle. The brackets are much larger than they need to be. Total overkill.
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This is a sketch of my outfeed table using those brackets.
I do agree that the SS design was not intended to drop down out of the way when not in use but I think it in fact will. Just loosen the bracket set screws that hold the connector tube on the inboard end of the floating tables, remove the telescoping leg(s) and the floating tables will drop down out of the way.
I have not actually ever done this but I am willing to check it out with pictures if anyone is interested. It looks like it should certainly work on a 510 but I am not sure about a 520 because the rails are different. All I have is 520's so I will check tomorrow.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Thanks again Dusty! I think about you everytime I use my extension table (for the most stays permanently installed). I used your drawings to cut my brackets out of aluminum angle and have the out end of the table supported by a piece of PVC pipe attached to a bracket at the bottom of the table tube (also your design) works like a dream!!!!
Jack
dusty wrote:Just to verify what is being discussed here. This is the set of brackets that Shopsmith sells and the fold away/drop down outfeed table is NOT what they were designed for. I have a pair that I very seldom use anymore. I made my own for the outfeed table.
It is very easy to drop the tables down without removing them. Just loosen the set screw in the telescoping leg that tightens against the connector tube, loosen the black nobs on the two floating tables and lower them down. As an alternative you could remove the telescoping leg completely from the pivoting bracket but that is not really necessary.
I set the floating tables up on the in feed side but the same thing works on the out feed side. I am not sure I would want the tables attached all the time on either the in feed or out feed side but they can be folded down out of the way with the SS brackets when needed.
I also decided to slide the connecting tubes all the way to the right so they were flush with the left hand bracket. Keeps the area around the head stock clear if you leave them attached.
Having said all this, Nick's mod is briliant
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John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
John B, I have noticed a trend, when ever there is a pic you post with your shop floor on it, there isnt a wood chip to be found on it. Thats not right.
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Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
ERLover wrote:John B, I have noticed a trend, when ever there is a pic you post with your shop floor on it, there isnt a wood chip to be found on it. Thats not right.
Well the floor is wood colored. There are probably a few things going on. First is my 5 HP 2000 CFM clearvue cyclone. Not much escapes. Then there are the two Powermatic 1200 CFM ceiling mounted air filters. Then there is the fact that I can't stand when people post pictures for sale and they look like crap. Take 5 minutes and clean and dust a bit. I clean up so you are not distracted by the junk. It only takes me a minute to hit the cyclone with the remote and suck up all the residual stuff.
Oh, then there is my wife that likes to keep the shop reasonably tidy.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
@ John B, as always, a true professional. What is your floor material? My newphews basement shop floor is concrete, with an epoxy coating, it is slippery as the tavern shuffle board game table when there is saw dust/lathe turnings on it.
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
jsburger wrote:...Just loosen the set screw in the telescoping leg that tightens against the connector tube, loosen the black nobs on the two floating tables and lower them down.
John B., you made my day when you wrote that, but now I'm confused. What black knobs are you referring to? Is that specific to the 520 tables (I have a 510), or do these brackets come with knobs I haven't seen?
jsburger wrote:...Just loosen the set screw in the telescoping leg that tightens against the connector tube, loosen the black nobs on the two floating tables and lower them down.
John B., you made my day when you wrote that, but now I'm confused. What black knobs are you referring to? Is that specific to the 520 tables (I have a 510), or do these brackets come with knobs I haven't seen?
The black knob to which he refers is the knob(s) used to secure the extension tubes in the table rails. On a 510, it is the silver knurled knob(s) used to secure the extension tubes in the table rails.
"Making Sawdust Safely" Dusty
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ERLover wrote:John B, I have noticed a trend, when ever there is a pic you post with your shop floor on it, there isnt a wood chip to be found on it. Thats not right.
Well the floor is wood colored. There are probably a few things going on. First is my 5 HP 2000 CFM clearvue cyclone. Not much escapes. Then there are the two Powermatic 1200 CFM ceiling mounted air filters. Then there is the fact that I can't stand when people post pictures for sale and they look like crap. Take 5 minutes and clean and dust a bit. I clean up so you are not distracted by the junk. It only takes me a minute to hit the cyclone with the remote and suck up all the residual stuff.
Oh, then there is my wife that likes to keep the shop reasonably tidy.
In other words, Johns' pictures are all photo ops. In the real world, he makes as much saw dust as we all do. We just never get to see it.
"Making Sawdust Safely" Dusty
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