Using the SS Sharpening Jig While Turning
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Hi Bob,
I appreciate your concerns and some others may agree with you. The pictures were posted to show how the jig was set up - not to demonstrate safety procedures.
I seriously doubt sparks would set the plywood on fire while sharpening. Grinding chisels to correct the shape of the bevel might create a problem but I would do that on a grinder, not this setup.
As for the gasoline can. I suppose it could pose a serious threat if open and placed directly under the sanding disk. However, being tightly closed and five feet away in an open air location seems to me to be sufficiently safe. In my opinion whatever fumes were present in the situation shown do not present a hazard. Maybe I'm not sensitive enough by your standards. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
If you don't want to use this idea that's fine with me. However, I plan to use it and I think many others will too. Perhaps you could make a similar setup using a metal plate instead of plywood as BPR mentioned.
Regards,
I appreciate your concerns and some others may agree with you. The pictures were posted to show how the jig was set up - not to demonstrate safety procedures.
I seriously doubt sparks would set the plywood on fire while sharpening. Grinding chisels to correct the shape of the bevel might create a problem but I would do that on a grinder, not this setup.
As for the gasoline can. I suppose it could pose a serious threat if open and placed directly under the sanding disk. However, being tightly closed and five feet away in an open air location seems to me to be sufficiently safe. In my opinion whatever fumes were present in the situation shown do not present a hazard. Maybe I'm not sensitive enough by your standards. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
If you don't want to use this idea that's fine with me. However, I plan to use it and I think many others will too. Perhaps you could make a similar setup using a metal plate instead of plywood as BPR mentioned.
Regards,
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Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
Thanks Dusty,
However, the idea (and the gas can) belong to my BIL Jay. He came up with the basic idea and I provided a couple of "refinement" ideas which he incorporated. I'll pass along your thoughts and Bob's about the gas can.
Jay is working on the second dado slot which will allow sharpening of much shorter chisels. This should save $$$ for anyone who uses their lathe a lot - they can buy chisels less frequently. Since he still has to work he thinks his final product won't be ready until sometime in October. I'll post pics when I get them.
Regards,
However, the idea (and the gas can) belong to my BIL Jay. He came up with the basic idea and I provided a couple of "refinement" ideas which he incorporated. I'll pass along your thoughts and Bob's about the gas can.
Jay is working on the second dado slot which will allow sharpening of much shorter chisels. This should save $$$ for anyone who uses their lathe a lot - they can buy chisels less frequently. Since he still has to work he thinks his final product won't be ready until sometime in October. I'll post pics when I get them.
Regards,
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Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
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Hi, guys, I just wanted to weigh in and clarify some things. First, the gas can. It was there by chance and it was a temporary thing. I had to move my Shopsmith around in the garage closer to the open door (which would have dissipated any fumes anyway), for better lighting for my non-flash digital camera. Second, the plywood is only a prototype. For the finished product, I plan on using a melamine coated surface.
What amazes me is that some will assume that a proclaimed prototype is the final setup and that's how and where it is used all the time. It was already mentioned that it is not the final answer to the project. Final pictures will be taken and I can assure you that they won't have a gas can in the picture.
What amazes me is that some will assume that a proclaimed prototype is the final setup and that's how and where it is used all the time. It was already mentioned that it is not the final answer to the project. Final pictures will be taken and I can assure you that they won't have a gas can in the picture.
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I am looking forward to the final version. It sounds like a great idea. This is another one of those ideas that I'd like for Shopsmith to look at as a possible upgrade item.
There wouldn't be a lot of up front design work - you have already done that. It is just a matter of getting it into production which I realize is an expensive and time consuming task.
There wouldn't be a lot of up front design work - you have already done that. It is just a matter of getting it into production which I realize is an expensive and time consuming task.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
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I FINALLY found the pictures of the final version! This version is made of MDF and painted. MDF is more stable than plywood (and less expensive!) so it's a better fit for this project.
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Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
I FINALLY found the pictures of the final version! This version is made of MDF and painted. MDF is more stable than plywood (and less expensive!) so it's a better fit for this project.
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Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
I found the pictures of the final version! This version is made of MDF and painted. MDF is more stable than plywood (and less expensive!) so it's a better fit for this project.
Had a problem with posting the pictures - had to resize them to fit in the parameters used by the forum. Hope they will post OK this time.
Had a problem with posting the pictures - had to resize them to fit in the parameters used by the forum. Hope they will post OK this time.
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Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.