Misaligned Quill Depth Dial
Moderator: admin
- dusty
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 21530
- Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
- Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona
Re: Misaligned Quill Depth Dial
Where is there anything "D" shaped in this set up?
Last edited by dusty on Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:25 am, edited 1 time in total.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Re: Misaligned Quill Depth Dial
When I had my headstock apart a few years ago for internal repairs, I had to realign the indicator on reassembly to make it read right. You can do the same.
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35599
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
Re: Misaligned Quill Depth Dial
The quill spring housing(inside the headstock). The flat part creates clearance for the quill spring that pokes out.dusty wrote:Where is there anything "D" shaped in this set up?
Had I remembered that last night, I would not have flapped about a D shaped hole.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- dusty
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 21530
- Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
- Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona
Re: Misaligned Quill Depth Dial
I checked both of mine and neither one of them lines up with anything specific; however, they work just fine. I'll consider some attempt at alignment the next time I have the machines torn down.
I have become a firm believer in "if it works...don't fix it"!!!
I have become a firm believer in "if it works...don't fix it"!!!
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35599
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
Re: Misaligned Quill Depth Dial
It should at least be close to the 0 mark when the dial is rotated full counter clockwise to the stop.dusty wrote:I checked both of mine and neither one of them lines up with anything specific; however, they work just fine. I'll consider some attempt at alignment the next time I have the machines torn down.
I have become a firm believer in "if it works...don't fix it"!!!
When setting a depth limit, I advance the quill to the reference surface and lock the quill. Then I adjust the dial for the depth desired, tighten the depth stop wingnut and release the quill lock.
The tool(bit or whatever) will travel past the reference surface the distance set on the dial and stop.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- dusty
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 21530
- Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
- Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona
Re: Misaligned Quill Depth Dial
OKAY. I am game.JPG wrote:It should at least be close to the 0 mark when the dial is rotated full counter clockwise to the stop.dusty wrote:I checked both of mine and neither one of them lines up with anything specific; however, they work just fine. I'll consider some attempt at alignment the next time I have the machines torn down.
I have become a firm believer in "if it works...don't fix it"!!!
When setting a depth limit, I advance the quill to the reference surface and lock the quill. Then I adjust the dial for the depth desired, tighten the depth stop wingnut and release the quill lock.
The tool(bit or whatever) will travel past the reference surface the distance set on the dial and stop.
Why should it at least be close?
Does Shopsmith documentation speak to this?
BTW With my go to Model 510 (upgraded to 520) has never been torn down so the quill depth mechanism has never been removed from the headstock. It is as Shopsmith sent it to me new. The set screw is still buried beneath ackempunky.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35599
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
Re: Misaligned Quill Depth Dial
For cripes sake Dusty, that is the purpose of the index and dial calibration.dusty wrote:OKAY. I am game.JPG wrote:It should at least be close to the 0 mark when the dial is rotated full counter clockwise to the stop.dusty wrote:I checked both of mine and neither one of them lines up with anything specific; however, they work just fine. I'll consider some attempt at alignment the next time I have the machines torn down.
I have become a firm believer in "if it works...don't fix it"!!!
When setting a depth limit, I advance the quill to the reference surface and lock the quill. Then I adjust the dial for the depth desired, tighten the depth stop wingnut and release the quill lock.
The tool(bit or whatever) will travel past the reference surface the distance set on the dial and stop.
Why should it at least be close?
Does Shopsmith documentation speak to this?
BTW With my go to Model 510 (upgraded to 520) has never been torn down so the quill depth mechanism has never been removed from the headstock. It is as Shopsmith sent it to me new. The set screw is still buried beneath ackempunky.
"0" is where the quill motion stops as the stop is encountered.
That can be anywhere within the quill motion range. That is why the 'dial' is adjustable.
Re 'factory setting', close is all that is reasonable. These parts are not precision.
No the index need not be dead on '0", but it would be 'nice' if it did.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Re: Misaligned Quill Depth Dial
BTW the material of the spring housing is pretty soft so when you take it apart the set screw will have left a very noticeable mark. I've always attempted to insert it with notch mark indexed to the set screw. From my observation this is how mine all have seemed to be from the factory. So using that location it will be at or very near the location it came from the factory.
On some used machines I've found it had been moved around a bit with several bite locations. I've always returned to what I think is the correct location and that seems to work fine.
Ed
On some used machines I've found it had been moved around a bit with several bite locations. I've always returned to what I think is the correct location and that seems to work fine.
Ed
{Knight of the Shopsmith} [Hero's don't wear capes, they wear dog tags]
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35599
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
Re: Misaligned Quill Depth Dial
Upon further 'pondering', I realized that that the positioning of the index mark really does not matter other than placing it at a 'visible' location.
That position is indeed at the set screw as it is visible from the 'top' in horizontal mode, and from the 'front' in vertical drill press mode.
Absolute positioning relative to the set screw does not affect the function.
Index / dial calibration accuracy is determined by the cast ears on the quill feed housing and the dial. Again not precision surfaces. However if one observes the 0 / index mark alignment and duplicates that at another dial setting, the quill will stop dead on that setting. i.e. the dial markings are quite accurate.
That position is indeed at the set screw as it is visible from the 'top' in horizontal mode, and from the 'front' in vertical drill press mode.
Absolute positioning relative to the set screw does not affect the function.
Index / dial calibration accuracy is determined by the cast ears on the quill feed housing and the dial. Again not precision surfaces. However if one observes the 0 / index mark alignment and duplicates that at another dial setting, the quill will stop dead on that setting. i.e. the dial markings are quite accurate.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange