Scary Situation!
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Scary Situation!
I've got a scary situation going on! I've recently ordered the parts to use my old Model 500 for some overhead routing. The problem is when using the table saw, the arbor set screw keeps coming loose, obviously screwing up my cuts. If this is due to vibration, what is running at 9500-10,000 rpm as opposed to only 3600 rpm going to do? I haven't attempted this yet due to these concerns. I don't need a super sharp router bit taking off!
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JPG
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Re: Scary Situation!
1) Correct set screw(flat).
2) Mounted correctly(centered on flat and all the way on). Obtained by rocking the arbor as the screw is tightened.
3) Dusty says get a new set screw.
3.1) JPG says tighten it correctly and snugly.
4) Angled set screw threads is another 'factor'.
5) Newer arbors have a brass tipped set screw.
Technique when tightening is IMHO the most important of all above.
2) Mounted correctly(centered on flat and all the way on). Obtained by rocking the arbor as the screw is tightened.
3) Dusty says get a new set screw.
3.1) JPG says tighten it correctly and snugly.
4) Angled set screw threads is another 'factor'.
5) Newer arbors have a brass tipped set screw.
Technique when tightening is IMHO the most important of all above.
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davebodner
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Re: Scary Situation!
I agree with everything JPG says.
Just to illuminate, I rock the arbor with the allen wrench as I'm tightening. And I've got a nice T-handled allen wrench, which just might make rocking the arbor easier.
Just to illuminate, I rock the arbor with the allen wrench as I'm tightening. And I've got a nice T-handled allen wrench, which just might make rocking the arbor easier.
Re: Scary Situation!
I also agree with all that JPG said. The biggest thing is TIGHTEN the set screw not just merely run it down snug. I use Eklind T handle allen wrenches. They have a lot of flex since they are 6"+ long. Even the stock L shaped SS allen wrench has a fair amount of flex in it. Along with rocking I tighten the set screw until the allen wrench pretty much stops flexing.
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ERLover
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Re: Scary Situation!
A drop of Blue LocTite on the treads, which does not need a release agent like Red Loctite.davebodner wrote:I agree with everything JPG says.
Just to illuminate, I rock the arbor with the allen wrench as I'm tightening. And I've got a nice T-handled allen wrench, which just might make rocking the arbor easier.
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
Re: Scary Situation!
On the ER, I'm just glad I've got the upper pulleys to
grab hold of. Mount the arbor, and as I tighten the
set screw, I'm twisting the pulleys, while tightening,
just to make sure it's sitting square on the flat.
Never had a set screw come loose, but I've got less
power than you guys do.
steve
grab hold of. Mount the arbor, and as I tighten the
set screw, I'm twisting the pulleys, while tightening,
just to make sure it's sitting square on the flat.
Never had a set screw come loose, but I've got less
power than you guys do.
steve
10 ER, stripped down.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.
Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.
Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
Re: Scary Situation!
THreads, maybe?ERLover wrote: A drop of Blue LocTite on the treads, which does not need a release agent like Red Loctite.
(Or, you use loctite for better traction on your car?)
Lover, just bustin' your chops!
steve
10 ER, stripped down.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.
Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.
Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
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JPG
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Re: Scary Situation!
Re blue loctite, does it do any good after tightening screw, loosening screw(to remove arbor) then reattaching and tightening days later?
I'se skeptical of the utility of this.
Also the effectiveness of uncured loctite.
I'se skeptical of the utility of this.
Also the effectiveness of uncured loctite.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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ERLover
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Re: Scary Situation!
Nice to hear from ya Skou, back again and not just "lurking"!!!!skou wrote:On the ER, I'm just glad I've got the upper pulleys to
grab hold of. Mount the arbor, and as I tighten the
set screw, I'm twisting the pulleys, while tightening,
just to make sure it's sitting square on the flat.
Never had a set screw come loose, but I've got less
power than you guys do.
steve
I dont think it is about power or RPMs as much as vibration.
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
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ERLover
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Re: Scary Situation!
4600+lb of Krupps Steel on the road, does not need LocTite for traction, just good Yokohoma tires, W speed rated!!!! Best of Europe and the Pacific Rimskou wrote:THreads, maybe?ERLover wrote: A drop of Blue LocTite on the treads, which does not need a release agent like Red Loctite.
(Or, you use loctite for better traction on your car?)
Lover, just bustin' your chops!
steve
https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/detail/yk580
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.