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Storage ideas for nails/screws etc in boxes??

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I'm starting to look into ways of storing my nails, screws and air nails where I have better access to ALL of them. Right now they are on shallow shelves and of course the ones I want are always at the back of the stacks.

The stacks are not organized by sizes so I often have to search the whole shelf to find the ones I hope I have. When I return them they go where ever they will fit.

I also try to buy quantities of things I use often, smaller amount of lesser used sizes, types and finishes. So I might have a box of 100 screws or it might be 500 or a 1000 pieces.

As an example here is a photo of two of my shelves as they are now:
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I pulled the kreg screws out so you get an idea of how packed in they are, this the collection from this shelf:
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My present thoughts are to make drawers, think heavy duty drawers and have space for say finishing nails, another for construction nails and for air nails. This might be a couple of drawers...... depending on how deep I go and how wide.

Another drawer of just kreg screws? Another of general screws?

Yet another drawer with room for couple bins of nails or screws for smaller quantities and or smaller sizes. These could also be part of my general bin population.

Has anyone done something like this?

Main thing I'm looking for is easy access and easy of finding items.

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What are nails ..... :confused:

:D

I am making finger joint (and lap) for my pegboard pieces, maybe make your own boxes? Would look good on those shelves ...

Just a thought ....
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Ed,

I've been buying the harbor freight storage containers, http://www.harborfreight.com/19-bin-por ... 93928.html, http://www.harborfreight.com/8-bin-port ... 93927.html, and one or two of http://www.harborfreight.com/15-bin-por ... 93929.html for various uses, to include screw and bolt storage. I also buy frequently used screws, bolts, nuts, washers in larger quantities and generally these containers have worked very well for me. A few of mine are pretty heavily loaded yet are holding up just fine. I don't see an easy and obvious way, to store nail gun nails (construction size nails) in these, but brad/wire nails would probably fit. I also use them for things like holding my doweling jig and dowels, CNC bits, 80/20 things, etc.

I generally use a sharpy to write on one or both of the yellow lock flaps for what is in the case and the inside top back of the bins for what should be in there. Could also use a label maker.

I'm planning on building/incorporating some sort of cabinet for my ever increasing collection of these containers; collecting various ideas from Systainer users, Adam Savage's Sortimo system, etc. I really need to get a Stanley equivalent to compare quality before I start building a cabinet, though.

I also discovered yesterday that there exists code to generate and 3D print custom sized bins for these containers which will allow me to have larger and smaller as needed, optionally with built-in dividers. While the current code is for the mid-sized containers, I can easily modify the code for both the large and small.
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Jesus reible, I thought you just built a storage thingy!!! :confused:
For me, I buy in smaller quantities, yes cost more, but then no cost in building storage devices. ;) Not a nail guy, just screws and/or glue.
I used to have a compressor and finish nail gun to tack things in place, but lightened up the load for the few times I used it.
Ya needed to have lived on a boat, "a place for everything and everything kept in its place." And just enough for needs and just a bit extra, TP was one for sure. :)
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I use the narrow shelf idea like you. Difference almost all my nails/screws come in boxes that are marked with size. I then stack the boxes smallest on bottom to most common used on top. The second stack if needed goes from most used down to largest. That way my most common are on top or only a box or two down. Rarely used are on the bottom. But since I only stack about 4 high it is no big deal. I also have a high point screw assortment that came in a divided box. I manage those screws from the box. Replacing them as I use them.

I like the boxes because if I go to do a job at one of my daughters I can throw in a box or 2 of the screws and nails I will be using. I do not want to carry more than I will use. Understand my tool box is a 5 gallon bucket which I load with the tools I will use on the job. I try to make sure I have everything I need but not anything else. I would never take my high point screw assortment out of my shop. It contains way to many screws that i won't use and makes not sense to take.

Back in the day I was building houses I did the same thing. Loaded the back of the truck with the tools I would be using. I watched way to many carry whatever you might need if the world cracks spend untold precious time trying to fine a nail the size they needed. They sorted through plumbing supplies, framing supplies, survey equip, electrical and roofing. When all they were going to do that day was some trim molding, and needed a finish hammer, block plane, chaulk, and some 8 penny finish nails along with their compressor and nail gun.
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I just completed a storage unit using binned boxes but I had been thinking of using another storage method for this collection.

I plan to stop at Harbor Freight this week, maybe Tuesday and look at the boxes they have. They do have a larger box 93927 that has 8 bins. It might work for the screws and nails but I'm thinking the nailer nails would be too heavy for them.

I might buy one of the boxes to see how I like it. I can also see how they fit the shelf space I have. I don't want to take the time to make another shelf unit this fall so this could be another option even if I decide to put it off until next spring.

Ed

roy_okc wrote:Ed,

I've been buying the harbor freight storage containers, http://www.harborfreight.com/19-bin-por ... 93928.html, http://www.harborfreight.com/8-bin-port ... 93927.html, and one or two of http://www.harborfreight.com/15-bin-por ... 93929.html for various uses, to include screw and bolt storage. I also buy frequently used screws, bolts, nuts, washers in larger quantities and generally these containers have worked very well for me. A few of mine are pretty heavily loaded yet are holding up just fine. I don't see an easy and obvious way, to store nail gun nails (construction size nails) in these, but brad/wire nails would probably fit. I also use them for things like holding my doweling jig and dowels, CNC bits, 80/20 things, etc.

I generally use a sharpy to write on one or both of the yellow lock flaps for what is in the case and the inside top back of the bins for what should be in there. Could also use a label maker.

I'm planning on building/incorporating some sort of cabinet for my ever increasing collection of these containers; collecting various ideas from Systainer users, Adam Savage's Sortimo system, etc. I really need to get a Stanley equivalent to compare quality before I start building a cabinet, though.

I also discovered yesterday that there exists code to generate and 3D print custom sized bins for these containers which will allow me to have larger and smaller as needed, optionally with built-in dividers. While the current code is for the mid-sized containers, I can easily modify the code for both the large and small.
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Ed/reible when I had the business, and the trim pneumatic nailer, I think 18ga I had all my nails in 1 or 2 similar totes/containers from Menards, flip tops, and moveable partitions in side to some degree, but that was 8 years ago.
About 14-16" wide, 10-12" front to back, and about 2" deep. With the handle molded into the front. I hope that made sense.
It wont help you on hammer nails. :eek:
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Your post reminded me of when I worked as a carpenters helper. The carpenter had a truck and in the back he had built a box say 5 feet long, 3 feet tall and about a foot or so deep. It was divided in to drawers and had a plywood door that kept things in place when moving.

The drawers were ruff and tough, more then likely left overs from other job sites over the years. He would buy bulk nails and bag and all went in the drawers. Of course the more used nails were in these heavy duty boxes of what 25 pounds each???? If you needed nails that was the source, a garden tool, three legged thing was used to scoop the nails out and into a cloth apron.

In those days there were no screws used in construction just nails and while he did do some finished work that was his winter work and he did that alone. That was part of his tools and went were ever he did. We had minimal tools, a RAS which was left on site once it was under protective cover and the rest went back in the truck at the end of the day. Skill saw and an old D-handle drill was about it for power tools.

That was my first experience with dual headed nails, turns out they are pretty useful on a job site.

The covered pickup had everything we needed and then some. Maybe twice when I was working with him did we run out of something and have to make a hardware run and that was short and sweet. He like to work and work fast and hard. I guess when you are the boss and owner and want to make money and keep your reputation in a small time you do just that.

I saw him just last year, well into his late 80's or early 90's and still working on jobs every day. Last I heard he was thinking of retiring and moving off somewhere but it would surprise me if that did happen. He is also a writer, twenty some books so he stays busy. Way more energy then I ever had. He would be up early check his trap line then come to the job site and put a days work and head off to be a fishing guide for a couple of hours. Managed to build several houses for himself in his spare time and do the writing and still run his businesses.

Anyway that was an experience.

Ed

Ed in Tampa wrote:I use the narrow shelf idea like you. Difference almost all my nails/screws come in boxes that are marked with size. I then stack the boxes smallest on bottom to most common used on top. The second stack if needed goes from most used down to largest. That way my most common are on top or only a box or two down. Rarely used are on the bottom. But since I only stack about 4 high it is no big deal. I also have a high point screw assortment that came in a divided box. I manage those screws from the box. Replacing them as I use them.

I like the boxes because if I go to do a job at one of my daughters I can throw in a box or 2 of the screws and nails I will be using. I do not want to carry more than I will use. Understand my tool box is a 5 gallon bucket which I load with the tools I will use on the job. I try to make sure I have everything I need but not anything else. I would never take my high point screw assortment out of my shop. It contains way to many screws that i won't use and makes not sense to take.

Back in the day I was building houses I did the same thing. Loaded the back of the truck with the tools I would be using. I watched way to many carry whatever you might need if the world cracks spend untold precious time trying to fine a nail the size they needed. They sorted through plumbing supplies, framing supplies, survey equip, electrical and roofing. When all they were going to do that day was some trim molding, and needed a finish hammer, block plane, chaulk, and some 8 penny finish nails along with their compressor and nail gun.
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reible wrote:Your post reminded me of when I worked as a carpenters helper. The carpenter had a truck and in the back he had built a box say 5 feet long, 3 feet tall and about a foot or so deep. It was divided in to drawers and had a plywood door that kept things in place when moving.

The drawers were ruff and tough, more then likely left overs from other job sites over the years. He would buy bulk nails and bag and all went in the drawers. Of course the more used nails were in these heavy duty boxes of what 25 pounds each???? If you needed nails that was the source, a garden tool, three legged thing was used to scoop the nails out and into a cloth apron.

In those days there were no screws used in construction just nails and while he did do some finished work that was his winter work and he did that alone. That was part of his tools and went were ever he did. We had minimal tools, a RAS which was left on site once it was under protective cover and the rest went back in the truck at the end of the day. Skill saw and an old D-handle drill was about it for power tools.

That was my first experience with dual headed nails, turns out they are pretty useful on a job site.

The covered pickup had everything we needed and then some. Maybe twice when I was working with him did we run out of something and have to make a hardware run and that was short and sweet. He like to work and work fast and hard. I guess when you are the boss and owner and want to make money and keep your reputation in a small time you do just that.

I saw him just last year, well into his late 80's or early 90's and still working on jobs every day. Last I heard he was thinking of retiring and moving off somewhere but it would surprise me if that did happen. He is also a writer, twenty some books so he stays busy. Way more energy then I ever had. He would be up early check his trap line then come to the job site and put a days work and head off to be a fishing guide for a couple of hours. Managed to build several houses for himself in his spare time and do the writing and still run his businesses.

Anyway that was an experience.

Ed

Ed in Tampa wrote:I use the narrow shelf idea like you. Difference almost all my nails/screws come in boxes that are marked with size. I then stack the boxes smallest on bottom to most common used on top. The second stack if needed goes from most used down to largest. That way my most common are on top or only a box or two down. Rarely used are on the bottom. But since I only stack about 4 high it is no big deal. I also have a high point screw assortment that came in a divided box. I manage those screws from the box. Replacing them as I use them.

I like the boxes because if I go to do a job at one of my daughters I can throw in a box or 2 of the screws and nails I will be using. I do not want to carry more than I will use. Understand my tool box is a 5 gallon bucket which I load with the tools I will use on the job. I try to make sure I have everything I need but not anything else. I would never take my high point screw assortment out of my shop. It contains way to many screws that i won't use and makes not sense to take.

Back in the day I was building houses I did the same thing. Loaded the back of the truck with the tools I would be using. I watched way to many carry whatever you might need if the world cracks spend untold precious time trying to fine a nail the size they needed. They sorted through plumbing supplies, framing supplies, survey equip, electrical and roofing. When all they were going to do that day was some trim molding, and needed a finish hammer, block plane, chaulk, and some 8 penny finish nails along with their compressor and nail gun.
Wow, just the morning trap line is work!!! The guy was a real work animal!!!
Just think if some Millennial would have to give up there AM Starbucks time on there IPad to get that done.
Shoot, just check the game camera on the IPad while at SB, to see if anything is in the trap. Efficiency and technology!!!
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reible wrote:Your post reminded me of when I worked as a carpenters helper. The carpenter had a truck and in the back he had built a box say 5 feet long, 3 feet tall and about a foot or so deep. It was divided in to drawers and had a plywood door that kept things in place when moving.

The drawers were ruff and tough, more then likely left overs from other job sites over the years. He would buy bulk nails and bag and all went in the drawers. Of course the more used nails were in these heavy duty boxes of what 25 pounds each???? If you needed nails that was the source, a garden tool, three legged thing was used to scoop the nails out and into a cloth apron.

In those days there were no screws used in construction just nails and while he did do some finished work that was his winter work and he did that alone. That was part of his tools and went were ever he did. We had minimal tools, a RAS which was left on site once it was under protective cover and the rest went back in the truck at the end of the day. Skill saw and an old D-handle drill was about it for power tools.

That was my first experience with dual headed nails, turns out they are pretty useful on a job site.

The covered pickup had everything we needed and then some. Maybe twice when I was working with him did we run out of something and have to make a hardware run and that was short and sweet. He like to work and work fast and hard. I guess when you are the boss and owner and want to make money and keep your reputation in a small time you do just that.

I saw him just last year, well into his late 80's or early 90's and still working on jobs every day. Last I heard he was thinking of retiring and moving off somewhere but it would surprise me if that did happen. He is also a writer, twenty some books so he stays busy. Way more energy then I ever had. He would be up early check his trap line then come to the job site and put a days work and head off to be a fishing guide for a couple of hours. Managed to build several houses for himself in his spare time and do the writing and still run his businesses.

Anyway that was an experience.

Ed

Ed in Tampa wrote:I use the narrow shelf idea like you. Difference almost all my nails/screws come in boxes that are marked with size. I then stack the boxes smallest on bottom to most common used on top. The second stack if needed goes from most used down to largest. That way my most common are on top or only a box or two down. Rarely used are on the bottom. But since I only stack about 4 high it is no big deal. I also have a high point screw assortment that came in a divided box. I manage those screws from the box. Replacing them as I use them.

I like the boxes because if I go to do a job at one of my daughters I can throw in a box or 2 of the screws and nails I will be using. I do not want to carry more than I will use. Understand my tool box is a 5 gallon bucket which I load with the tools I will use on the job. I try to make sure I have everything I need but not anything else. I would never take my high point screw assortment out of my shop. It contains way to many screws that i won't use and makes not sense to take.

Back in the day I was building houses I did the same thing. Loaded the back of the truck with the tools I would be using. I watched way to many carry whatever you might need if the world cracks spend untold precious time trying to fine a nail the size they needed. They sorted through plumbing supplies, framing supplies, survey equip, electrical and roofing. When all they were going to do that day was some trim molding, and needed a finish hammer, block plane, chaulk, and some 8 penny finish nails along with their compressor and nail gun.
Wow, just the morning trap line is work!!! The guy was a real work animal!!!
Just think if some Millennial would have to give up there AM Starbucks time on there IPad to get that done.
Shoot, just check the game camera on the IPad while at SB, to see if anything is in the trap. Efficiency and technology!!!
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The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
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