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I am glad you posted that pix.

It reminded me that voltage/current is an insufficient criteria.

1/20 HP at 3300RPM is important and applies to the voltage/current specified.
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Well that seems to be par for the course. Three reports and three apparently different labels.

Note that the Model Numbers are different.
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JPG wrote:
Skizzity wrote:
dusty wrote:I just drug myself in from the shop; been under the weather with a virile infection. While there I took a look at my Shopsmith ProPlanar Feed Motor. The label says that it is 115VDC, .5 amp.

Is there any that different than that?

I just agreed to purchase one, sight unseen for $40.00. It will be interesting to see just how badly I have been taken.
Mine says .4 amps.
Does it also say 90VDC? Mine says 90VDC and .5A(assume it is a ss mount motor - history unknown).


Considering the apparent 'simplicity' of the feed speed controller, I doubt any motor deviation will unlikely cause any problem other than a speed attained for a specific controller dial/knob setting.

However I only know of one controller version.

We do know the speed range is different between the pro planer and the ss mount model.
I remember the thread where you said yours was 90 VDC. I was going to respond to Dusty's post that there were two different voltage motors but I could not find the thread.

James, your motor is 90 VDC and you have said the early "Pro Planers" were 1 1/2 HP and later ones are 1 3/4 HP. I would like to get to the bottom of what I think is some confusion on this subject.

Here is what I know...

1. The Pro Planer says "12" Professional Planer" on the in feed shield.
2. The Shopsmith mounted planer says "Shopsmith 12" planer" on the in feed shield.
3. The Pro Planer comes with a 1 3/4 HP motor.
4. The power stand for the SS mounted planer has a 1 1/2 HP motor.
5. The feed rate of the SS mounted planer is less than the Pro Planer.

So here is the question...

Is the feed motor on the SS mounted planer 90 VDC and the Pro Planer 115 VDC? My Pro Planer says 115 VDC .5 A. What does the label say on those of you that have a SS mounted planer? I will also say a SS mounted planer mounted on a power stand dose not make it equal to a Pro Planer.
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My SS mounted planer shows 115V, .5 A
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jsburger wrote:
JPG wrote:
Skizzity wrote:
Mine says .4 amps.
Does it also say 90VDC? Mine says 90VDC and .5A(assume it is a ss mount motor - history unknown).


Considering the apparent 'simplicity' of the feed speed controller, I doubt any motor deviation will unlikely cause any problem other than a speed attained for a specific controller dial/knob setting.

However I only know of one controller version.

We do know the speed range is different between the pro planer and the ss mount model.
I remember the thread where you said yours was 90 VDC. I was going to respond to Dusty's post that there were two different voltage motors but I could not find the thread.

James, your motor is 90 VDC and you have said the early "Pro Planers" were 1 1/2 HP and later ones are 1 3/4 HP. I would like to get to the bottom of what I think is some confusion on this subject.

Here is what I know...

1. The Pro Planer says "12" Professional Planer" on the in feed shield.
2. The Shopsmith mounted planer says "Shopsmith 12" planer" on the in feed shield.
3. The Pro Planer comes with a 1 3/4 HP motor.
4. The power stand for the SS mounted planer has a 1 1/2 HP motor.
5. The feed rate of the SS mounted planer is less than the Pro Planer.

So here is the question...

Is the feed motor on the SS mounted planer 90 VDC and the Pro Planer 115 VDC? My Pro Planer says 115 VDC .5 A. What does the label say on those of you that have a SS mounted planer? I will also say a SS mounted planer mounted on a power stand dose not make it equal to a Pro Planer.
If the controllers are differrent, which controllers work with which motors? They do physically connect the same way, do they not?
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dusty wrote:
jsburger wrote:
JPG wrote:
Does it also say 90VDC? Mine says 90VDC and .5A(assume it is a ss mount motor - history unknown).


Considering the apparent 'simplicity' of the feed speed controller, I doubt any motor deviation will unlikely cause any problem other than a speed attained for a specific controller dial/knob setting.

However I only know of one controller version.

We do know the speed range is different between the pro planer and the ss mount model.
I remember the thread where you said yours was 90 VDC. I was going to respond to Dusty's post that there were two different voltage motors but I could not find the thread.

James, your motor is 90 VDC and you have said the early "Pro Planers" were 1 1/2 HP and later ones are 1 3/4 HP. I would like to get to the bottom of what I think is some confusion on this subject.

Here is what I know...

1. The Pro Planer says "12" Professional Planer" on the in feed shield.
2. The Shopsmith mounted planer says "Shopsmith 12" planer" on the in feed shield.
3. The Pro Planer comes with a 1 3/4 HP motor.
4. The power stand for the SS mounted planer has a 1 1/2 HP motor.
5. The feed rate of the SS mounted planer is less than the Pro Planer.

So here is the question...

Is the feed motor on the SS mounted planer 90 VDC and the Pro Planer 115 VDC? My Pro Planer says 115 VDC .5 A. What does the label say on those of you that have a SS mounted planer? I will also say a SS mounted planer mounted on a power stand dose not make it equal to a Pro Planer.
If the controllers are differrent, which controllers work with which motors? They do physically connect the same way, do they not?
I assumed (yes I know :) ) that the controllers were different because of the different motor voltages. As JPG (I think) said the voltage difference is not enough to require a different controller and I agree.
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jsburger wrote:
dusty wrote:
jsburger wrote:
I remember the thread where you said yours was 90 VDC. I was going to respond to Dusty's post that there were two different voltage motors but I could not find the thread.

James, your motor is 90 VDC and you have said the early "Pro Planers" were 1 1/2 HP and later ones are 1 3/4 HP. I would like to get to the bottom of what I think is some confusion on this subject.

Here is what I know...

1. The Pro Planer says "12" Professional Planer" on the in feed shield.
2. The Shopsmith mounted planer says "Shopsmith 12" planer" on the in feed shield.
3. The Pro Planer comes with a 1 3/4 HP motor.
4. The power stand for the SS mounted planer has a 1 1/2 HP motor.
5. The feed rate of the SS mounted planer is less than the Pro Planer.

So here is the question...

Is the feed motor on the SS mounted planer 90 VDC and the Pro Planer 115 VDC? My Pro Planer says 115 VDC .5 A. What does the label say on those of you that have a SS mounted planer? I will also say a SS mounted planer mounted on a power stand dose not make it equal to a Pro Planer.
If the controllers are differrent, which controllers work with which motors? They do physically connect the same way, do they not?
I assumed (yes I know :) ) that the controllers were different because of the different motor voltages. As JPG (I think) said the voltage difference is not enough to require a different controller and I agree.
Note that is also a variance in the ratios. Part numbers are often assigned as a result of perfromance ratings.
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dusty wrote:
jsburger wrote:
dusty wrote:
If the controllers are differrent, which controllers work with which motors? They do physically connect the same way, do they not?
I assumed (yes I know :) ) that the controllers were different because of the different motor voltages. As JPG (I think) said the voltage difference is not enough to require a different controller and I agree.
Note that is also a variance in the ratios. Part numbers are often assigned as a result of perfromance ratings.
Yes I saw that but I didn't want to confuse the discussion. The cutter head speed and feed rate combined are inversely related to the cuts per inch.
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http://eurtonelectric.com/catalog/motor ... v03537ad80

There's something here for $95 bucks, maybe worth a call.
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newportcycle wrote:http://eurtonelectric.com/catalog/motor ... v03537ad80

There's something here for $95 bucks, maybe worth a call.

WOW!
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