Shopsmith Large Format Drawings, Illustrations and More

[BuckeyeDennis]

I tried to submit the 10E to VintageMachinery.org.

I originally submitted the 10E manual there just as I completed it.

I waited and waited for it to be approved and listed publicly. It did successfully upload with no errors.

It was never approved for publication there making me believe they only want copies of vintage OEM manuals, so I did not submit the 10ER or the Mark VII, and that's why I created my Google Drive in the first place.

Those types of files are far too large for Shopsmith Forum posting limits.

Do you personally know someone at VintageMachinery.org by chance?

Everett

No, unfortunately I don't know anyone there.

I can see where publishing "modified" manuals might be a slippery slope for them. But on the other hand, their sister site owwm.org has tons of post on restoring machinery, so restored manuals should also be of interest.

I'm not an OWWM member, but I just checked out their (rather interesting) section on forum rules. It includes the following paragraph, which mentions a way that you might be able to get feedback from the powers-that-be at VintageMachinery.org.

Vintage Machinery Website Support Forum:
This forum is for use when having problems with the Vintage Machinery (previously the OWWM Dot Com) site. This forum is monitored by Vintage Machinery site owner Keith Rucker, Vintage Machinery site historian Jeff Joslin as well as others.

[everettdavis]

Thanks. I will check into that.

Everett

Update: 1/15/2017 - Jeff Joslin - The Woodworking machinery historian, asked me to resubmit them. They are pending publication in the Magna Engineering Corp. and Magna American Corp. respectively.

[everettdavis]

I just heard from Jeff that all three documents are now posted on their site.

I had mentioned the Buying a Used Shopsmith V2 document that started this thread and Jeff has now uploaded it to the VintageMachinery Wiki himself.

Thanks for the heads-up on reaching him.

Everett

[BuckeyeDennis]

Congratulations, Everett!

I believe that your fine work has now earned you digital immortality. And it is very well deserved.

[JPG]

You both deserve congratulations for gittn er done!!!!

[LR1231]

Hey Everett,

I have been looking for a good used Shopsmith each time I go on leave so I can take it to my mom's and work on it while on leave.

A buddy of mine found one for him and we took it to his uncle's house so we can work together and learn. His is an 1980's Gray Mark V but doesn't have the two bearing quill. It has the 1 1/8HP motor. It's in good shape and what little rust was on the two sets of tubes came right off.

Your Buying a Used Shopsmith guide sure helped us as we were looking for his and his uncle said if we find one for me I can house it there and work on it.

We read your way of doing the alignment write up and wondered how you came about doing those things opposed to the other methods shopsmith owners have.

We tried your way and it seems to work well. Very well I'd say.

I was just curious how you came up with that, and want to get you to share more ideas that simplify things. Luckily, his uncle had a dial indicator set up and we were off to the races.

Lewis

[JPG]

One 'comes up' with new/different ways of doing things by understanding both the intended goal and that which affects getting there.

i.e. think through what you are doing rather than merely following someone else's method.

[everettdavis]

Ok Lewis, you asked a question and JPG threw out a bit of a challenge since I bought my first brand new Shopsmith in the early 1980's, but have been aware of them and around them since I was a young boy.

JPG is correct in that my method evolved from doing alignments through the years (ok decades) and finding easier ways to verify things were in order.

Honestly my way seemed logical to me. Last year when I was restoring the 10E and 10ER Manuals, I guess it seemed logical to the folks at MAGNA too as the conclusions I had come to, were recommendations they had made before I was born. See attachment FIG 16 which came from the 10ER version.

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To add to my way of doing things, for your and JPG's request, I put together a PDF titled "What Can a Single Crosscut tell you"

The short answer to the question is 'Volumes'.

Go to http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... 90#p185690 to download the document.

I hope you enjoy it.

Everett

[LR1231]

Thanks Everett!

I like how you make things simple to do, and I think that it becomes logical to you just as you said, but that is also like JPG wrote, due to your experience.

What can one crosscut tell you document is easy to understand and makes perfect logical sense. Now I can make one cut and know the saw is in proper alignment. E z p z, as my mom says.

While I have access to a dial indicator at his uncle's house, I don't have one at mom's house, and I would rather buy saw blades that I will use every day than buying a dial indicator that I don't see using often. You have any ideas for that? Not an issue now, but hopefully someday when I find my own Shopsmith.

Lewis

[everettdavis]

Lewis,

Thank you. Simple is often preferable, and least cost most preferable to most I suspect.

R J DeCristoforo was commissioned by Magna in the late 1940's to write their manuals, and arguably one of the most accomplished and respected woodworkers in America, and the author of all the versions of Power Tool Woodworking for Everyone (PTWFE) series, that remained the Woodworking Bible for Shopsmith owners.

I have attached photos from the recent Mark VII manual I restored (FIG 17) that R J DeCristoforo prepared in the 1960’s where he shows a very simple method that would suffice in lieu of a Dial Indicator. FIG18 shows it slid through to the opposite side of the blade to verify it is the same.

While he shows using the Saw Blade in this photo (which has offset teeth) I prefer the Steel Sanding Disk (use the other Miter Slot) as I document in the document My Method to Alignment. You could easily use this method without the dial indicator to align it.

After loosening the Table adjustment bolts, FIG 19 illustrates R.J. gently enticing the table to move into alignment before tightening bolts.

FIG 20 illustrates making the Miter Gauge at right angle to the Miter Slot to set the 0 reference point, and yes, those are his hands.

This speaks to using simple proven tools you likely have on hand to insure accuracy.

The "What can one crosscut tell you?" was a method to see IF your gear is aligned or needs adjustment. The "My method to Alignment" is a primer on how to approach it, to fix what is wrong.

Again I am glad that you find my postings useful. I try above all to be practical.

Everett

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