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DC3300 - looking for pictures etc of 4" adapter

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Continuing to tweak my DC-3300 upgrades (1 micron bag upgrade still pending) and today's question has to do with the (now discontinued) 4" adapter. One thing I am considering doing is modifying or replacing the input adapter 'box' on the DC-3300 (i.e. the input box that presently has three 2-1/2" ports) with a straight 4" port. I will then put a single 4" to 2-1/2" adapter on that port - The important point is that the new port will be straight in line with the fan housing inlet.

If anyone has a picture of the SS adapter, I would love to see it. If anyone has converted their inlet box to a 4" port, I would love to see that also.

And, yes, I know that you should not try running a 4" dust line as the velocity is just too low for good chip transportation. I will be running 2-1/2" line .. in fact, probably only one 10 ft long flex line.

Thanks for any responses.
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Not a great picture, but the 4" adapter is still shown here, Item F:

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ttings.htm

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No need to buy one (and Shopsmith doesn't sell it anymore). I was once told by Shopsmith that behind the assembly where the 2 1/2 hoses enter, you will find a standard 4 inch hole waiting for you. That appears to be confirmed by the drawing. Just detach 22, 23, 24 & 25. http://www.shopsmith.com/service/dc3300 ... iagram.htm
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algale wrote:No need to buy one (and Shopsmith doesn't sell it anymore). I was once told by Shopsmith that behind the assembly where the 2 1/2 hoses enter, you will find a stanard 4 inch hole waiting for you. That appears to be confirmed by the drawing. Just detach 22, 23, 24 & 25. http://www.shopsmith.com/service/dc3300 ... iagram.htm

Somewhere, I thought it was a Sawdust Session, there is a presentation by Nick of the dust collection system used in the shop there are Shopsmith. In that presentation, I think, I remember a discussion about a home built adapter for 4" hose. A three way gate.
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dusty wrote:
algale wrote:No need to buy one (and Shopsmith doesn't sell it anymore). I was once told by Shopsmith that behind the assembly where the 2 1/2 hoses enter, you will find a stanard 4 inch hole waiting for you. That appears to be confirmed by the drawing. Just detach 22, 23, 24 & 25. http://www.shopsmith.com/service/dc3300 ... iagram.htm

Somewhere, I thought it was a Sawdust Session, there is a presentation by Nick of the dust collection system used in the shop there are Shopsmith. In that presentation, I think, I remember a discussion about a home built adapter for 4" hose. A three was gate.
You thinking of the 'three hose octopus'?

If so that was to adapt to a 3" pvc pipe system.

I like the single bigger hole approach 'more gooder'. HMMMMMMM!
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Thanks for the picture from the catalog - looks like they used a more-or-less standard 4" flange adapter (which was exactly what I was going to do).

Unfortunately mounting the adapter is a bit awkward in that, under the SS plate on the outside of the existing input housing, the end of the inlet pipe is closed off. Which just means I have to cut a hole (about 3-3/4" diameter hole)to match the ID of the adapter flange. Not a big deal as it is plastic.
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Remove the entire input housing.

Go back 4 posts. ;)
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Just removing the inlet housing is NOT the simple answer. You really need many of the functions of the inlet housing: i.e. matching to the curved surface of the tub, sealing the interior of the tub from the outside world, providing a tube to link the outside world to the inlet of the fan housing to name a few things that come to mind.

The simplest solution would seem to be to: remove the name plate and mounting screws (item #22 and 23), cut a hole in the inlet housing (item #25) and then mount the new 4" bulk head adapter (with a some RTV for sealing and self tapping screws. That will give you a straight shot into the inlet of the fan assembly and probably pick you up some CFM. I plan on a then adding a tapered 4" to 2-1/2" adapter and I am off to the races.

If I wanted two inlets, Rockler has a nice Y-adapter (4" to a pair of 2-1/2").

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True there is no magic solution that 'just happens' without some thoughtful decisions.
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JPG wrote:True there is no magic solution that 'just happens' without some thoughtful decisions.
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