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Re: Buying a Used Shopsmith Revisited

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jsburger wrote:
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LR1231 wrote:I think the -What can a single crosscut tell you?- instructions say that already.

He used an illustration for both the face view and edge view, and then he stated "Let's start with a short length of board that is KNOWN flat, and square on the corners meaning 90 degrees" He used the degree symbol but I can't find that on my keyboard. He put KNOWN in all caps.

If it is known flat, and all the corners both face and edge are 90 degrees, what am I missing? I agree with what you said, but didn't he say that?

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We said much of the same things.(after all the goal is the same)

However I posted a method that did not require any measuring nor calculating.

One cut - two comparisons - no other 'tools'.

I also emphasized(repeated) the requirement of a straight edge and a flat face.

The method does not require an accurate 90° edge/face angle though it helps with the comparing.



Food fer thought - ° ± ≈ ÷ ∞ ≡ µ Ω ≥ ≤ ½ ¼ ¢ π √ ² ;)
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YES - - - - - - - - - In my dos basic compiler manual. :D

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Re: Buying a Used Shopsmith Revisited

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OR in win10 in start/windows accessories/character map.
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beeg wrote:OR in win10 in start/windows accessories/character map.
Different. That is a greatly expanded set and requires an extra keystroke.
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-My assembler only JMP's to Conclusions-

I know. I know. Don't code it. It's already hard to read....

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Not as quick, but less memory dependent. ;)
When I want to use special characters, I open a new document in my word processor, (LibraOffice Writer), click Insert - Special Character, pick the one(s) I want from the pop up window, and then I copy them to the clipboard and paste into the post here, or wherever I need them. :)
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rpd wrote:Not as quick, but less memory dependent. ;)
When I want to use special characters, I open a new document in my word processor, (LibraOffice Writer), click Insert - Special Character, pick the one(s) I want from the pop up window, and then I copy them to the clipboard and paste into the post here, or wherever I need them. :)
Effective and indeed requires no memory from the 'operator' nor an additional program(application), but is typical of 'windows' methods that are IMHO excessively dependent upon the computer itself with windows/popups etc. and much mousing and clicking around.

The direct keyboard approach(either one) involves no software other than the keyboard bios which is active for ALL 'normal' :rolleyes: input from the keyboard.
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Re: Buying a Used Shopsmith Revisited

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JPG wrote:
rpd wrote:Not as quick, but less memory dependent. ;)
When I want to use special characters, I open a new document in my word processor, (LibraOffice Writer), click Insert - Special Character, pick the one(s) I want from the pop up window, and then I copy them to the clipboard and paste into the post here, or wherever I need them. :)
Effective and indeed requires no memory from the 'operator' nor an additional program(application), but is typical of 'windows' methods that are IMHO excessively dependent upon the computer itself with windows/popups etc. and much mousing and clicking around.

The direct keyboard approach(either one) involves no software other than the keyboard bios which is active for ALL 'normal' :rolleyes: input from the keyboard.
Well Red, we already knew that you were just a little bit "square"! :D
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Now if all this fancy software would just stop playing around with character spacing! :mad:
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I promised John Burger that I would restore the MAGNA Preliminary Manual as my next project. They weren't even calling it the 10E yet.

I felt it was an important project to restore just because this was the first document to accompany the original MAGNA machines.

It was so early in fact, there was a parts diagram, but no parts listing with the names of the parts, with a promise to send owners a new printed manual when one was printed.

It will be a while before I finish it.

Like the other manuals I restored, I added things to it, including a parts listing from a later series 10E in which some of the part numbers in the original drawing had been 'updated' by production changes.

Here's a taste of the sort of addendum's I am adding to the material in the original manual.

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As is usual for your work that is gorgeous. :) :cool:
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