Hello from Oklahoma

Forum for people who are new to woodworking. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

bmsma
Gold Member
Posts: 25
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Hello from Oklahoma

Post by bmsma »

howdy again:

we have expanded our search and are comparing some different ones, some a few hours away so i have another cpl quick questions. and we are do alot of searching

Transport: if i pull the headstock off and sit it in the backseat "its a crew cab 1/2 ton" is it safe to sit and strap the frame in the bed ?? if the weather is questionable ill have it tarped. and would you all sugguset laying it on its side ??

510/520:
have read the upgrade list but just down and dirty is the 520 worth a extra 500 over a 510 ??


thanks all
Troy & Andrea

Troy & Andrea, just two old hippies living the dream in small town oklahoma, enjoying life from the slow lane :)
Hobbyman2
Platinum Member
Posts: 2660
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:52 am
Location: Ohio

Re: Hello from Oklahoma

Post by Hobbyman2 »

My 2cnts,,,, they are pretty versatile , I would do as ya mentioned with the head stock ,will make loading and unloading easier.
strap in the bottom section , I dont think you will have issues with it on its side.


JMO

Hobbyman2
Hobbyman2 Favorite Quote: "If a man does his best, what else is there?"
- General George S. Patton (1885-1945)
charlese
Platinum Member
Posts: 7501
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:46 pm
Location: Lancaster, CA

Re: Hello from Oklahoma

Post by charlese »

bmsma wrote: 510/520:
have read the upgrade list but just down and dirty is the 520 worth a extra 500 over a 510 ??


thanks all
Troy & Andrea
Hi Troy! $500 is $75 dollars better than buying the upgrade kit from Shopsmith - Plus shipping Here's the site for buying a 51-/520 upgrade - http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... ofence.htm

However, buying from Shopsmith you get a NEW system. No chance of the old owner screwing up the rails or fence.

On the other hand I have owned a 510 for 20 years or so and am very happy with it. Personally I dont see any advantage of a 520 other than a wider rip fence. My 510 has held it's alignment for years.

RE: transporting in a pickup = If the headstock is of the old style (belt and sheaves) there would be no problem leaving the headstock on the way tubes and laying the whole machine on it's side, provided the speed control is up (not down) and the machine is padded from scratching on the metal bed of the truck.
Octogenarian's have an earned right to be a curmudgeon.
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Gene Howe
Platinum Member
Posts: 3219
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:52 pm
Location: Snowflake, AZ

Re: Hello from Oklahoma

Post by Gene Howe »

Not being a 510 or 520 owner, I can only offer an opinion.
Since the upgrade to the 520 is around $800, your price seems reasonable.
The utility of the 520 is unquestionably worth it. I only wish I could use one. But my present configuration won't allow it.

Here is the upgrade kit and pricing. http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/505to520.htm
dgreen810
Gold Member
Posts: 478
Joined: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:17 pm
Location: Tulsa Area

Re: Hello from Oklahoma

Post by dgreen810 »

Hi Troy

From one Okie to another Okie

Since you have a pick-up simply roll it into your pick-up standing up as it normally sits, strap it in and drive it home. I picked up a Mark V 510 in Siloam Springs, Ark., loaded it into my pick-up, strapped it in, let it down off the casters, strapped it in so it couldn't move and drove it to Tulsa. Absolutely no problems.

There is No reason to remove the headstock or any thing else for that matter including any SPT that may be attached. Just be sure and "lock everything" down for transport so nothing vibrates loose. If you are driving over a couple hundred miles or so I would stop and check to make nothing has worked loose.

Good Luck

Don G
User avatar
rpd
Platinum Member
Posts: 3045
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:22 am
Location: Victoria, B.C.

Re: Hello from Oklahoma

Post by rpd »

bmsma wrote:howdy again:

we have expanded our search and are comparing some different ones, some a few hours away so i have another cpl quick questions. and we are do alot of searching

Transport: if i pull the headstock off and sit it in the backseat "its a crew cab 1/2 ton" is it safe to sit and strap the frame in the bed ?? if the weather is questionable ill have it tarped. and would you all suggest laying it on its side ??

thanks all
Troy & Andrea
May be outside your range, a 520, no spts but it doe's have a nice lathe chuck, https://fayar.craigslist.org/tls/5969697465.html

I have a full sized van so all of mine were moved in one piece.
Here is a video showing a way to load in vehicle.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZf-ubXKClg[/youtube]
If you need to break it down into smaller pieces, this post describes a good technique. Gone in 60 seconds
Ron Dyck
==================================================================
10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

Re: Hello from Oklahoma

Post by ERLover »

Moved a couple that way, easy peasy. Even without castors, depending on bed base, they will slide easy on a hard surface, carpeting you need to lift a bit, for that 2 people work best.
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
bmsma
Gold Member
Posts: 25
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Hello from Oklahoma

Post by bmsma »

thanks all,
biggest reason for takeing the headstock off is ill put in the back seat so if we stop for the night no moisture will get to it. shouldnt hurt the frame.

and ill have the frame tarped as well and tied well.

i called and left a message and shot the ark one a cpl times but havent heard back.

also: on the headstock, when removed there are cams or guides that may move, from what i have read. is there a easy way to prevent that ??

Troy

Troy & Andrea, just two old hippies living the dream in small town oklahoma, enjoying life from the slow lane :)
ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

Re: Hello from Oklahoma

Post by ERLover »

bmsma wrote:thanks all,
biggest reason for takeing the headstock off is ill put in the back seat so if we stop for the night no moisture will get to it. shouldnt hurt the frame.

and ill have the frame tarped as well and tied well.

i called and left a message and shot the ark one a cpl times but havent heard back.

also: on the headstock, when removed there are cams or guides that may move, from what i have read. is there a easy way to prevent that ??

Troy
Probably not, and they have to be checked and positioned in there proper position to get the HS back on. If tarped I would leave the HS on, and not have to worry about getting it back on, they come off easy, getting them back on, if not familar is kinda a PITA, the tubes want to spread, pluus the internal position of the "locking cams" to be able to get it on. I have done it, but a learning experience.
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
User avatar
reible
Platinum Member
Posts: 11283
Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:08 pm
Location: Aurora, IL

Re: Hello from Oklahoma

Post by reible »

I normally don't worry about taking the headstock on and off because it is pretty easy to align the wedges but if you are worried I've seen paper towel tubes, sections of PVC pipe and even the foam pipe insulation used. Pull the headstock off and insert some tube in to the holes, the closer to the actual tube size is better.

Ed
{Knight of the Shopsmith} [Hero's don't wear capes, they wear dog tags]
Post Reply