10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
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10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
I just purchased a 10ER (my first encounter with a Shopsmith after learning about them less than a week before purchase) which I'll likely be starting a restore thread on. As I've already gained so much useful information here, on Youtube, and on the Yahoo user's group, I thought I'd share something that simplified my reinstallation of the quill return spring into the housing. Mine was caked with sawdust, presumably because the front tab on my headstock is cracked off, making the top/front gap in the housing a lot larger.
I referred to this video for almost everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S66Lf9VAjnA
However, even with safety glasses and thick leather gloves on, I felt that I almost needed a third hand to hold the spring "flat" as I wound it tight enough to clamp it with locking pliers. I saw no way out of drawing blood, and don't have a great vise for holding the pinion shaft without marring it, so I decided to try something else.
I inserted the shaft back into the headstock with the tool in vertical press mode, placed the back side locking collar about 3/16" closer to the end, allowing the spring to stay safely away from the tabs on the headstock. I then bent a piece of insulated 12ga copper wire to go through the tang, and wrapped it around the front way tube, twisting it together 3 times alternating front and back so there was no risk of anything popping loose.
With a quill lever reinstalled on the opposite end of the shaft, I didn't have to fight the spring at all. The only issue is that you will want to have a second 6" needle nose locking pliers/vise grip to transfer the spring from one to the other to reinsert the spring the correct way into the housing. Hope this helps someone else like me who is just starting out trying to eventually turn rust into sawdust. Without a decent vise, this method calmed my nerves a TON.
I referred to this video for almost everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S66Lf9VAjnA
However, even with safety glasses and thick leather gloves on, I felt that I almost needed a third hand to hold the spring "flat" as I wound it tight enough to clamp it with locking pliers. I saw no way out of drawing blood, and don't have a great vise for holding the pinion shaft without marring it, so I decided to try something else.
I inserted the shaft back into the headstock with the tool in vertical press mode, placed the back side locking collar about 3/16" closer to the end, allowing the spring to stay safely away from the tabs on the headstock. I then bent a piece of insulated 12ga copper wire to go through the tang, and wrapped it around the front way tube, twisting it together 3 times alternating front and back so there was no risk of anything popping loose.
With a quill lever reinstalled on the opposite end of the shaft, I didn't have to fight the spring at all. The only issue is that you will want to have a second 6" needle nose locking pliers/vise grip to transfer the spring from one to the other to reinsert the spring the correct way into the housing. Hope this helps someone else like me who is just starting out trying to eventually turn rust into sawdust. Without a decent vise, this method calmed my nerves a TON.
Last edited by badtheba on Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: 10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
Welcome to the forum.
I think you will be a good fit here.
Good thinking!!!
I think you will be a good fit here.
Good thinking!!!
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Re: 10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
Thanks! What is the best place to put an in progress rebuild thread?JPG wrote:Welcome to the forum.
I think you will be a good fit here.
Good thinking!!!
Re: 10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
Welcome from me too.badtheba wrote:Thanks! What is the best place to put an in progress rebuild thread?
Put the rebuild thread in this forum (Maintenance and Repair).
I am looking forward to following your progress.
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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Re: 10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
Outstanding thinking. Like JPG said, you are going to fit LOL.
Look forward to your rebuild, good start to your SS Odyssey .... (bet you can't stop at one
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Look forward to your rebuild, good start to your SS Odyssey .... (bet you can't stop at one
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
Re: 10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
I've already dropped the hint to my wife (received eye roll). Even though I have a barely started project one in the garage, lol.rjent wrote:(bet you can't stop at one)
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Re: 10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
Ask her how many purses she has.badtheba wrote:I've already dropped the hint to my wife (received eye roll). Even though I have a barely started project one in the garage, lol.rjent wrote:(bet you can't stop at one)
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Re: 10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
Be warned that does not always work. When I was on active duty the only purse I had was the one I had to keep for a full sea bag but otherwise I did not have any and now that I'm retired, I got rid of that one too.JPG wrote:Ask her how many purses she has.badtheba wrote:I've already dropped the hint to my wife (received eye roll). Even though I have a barely started project one in the garage, lol.rjent wrote:(bet you can't stop at one)
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Brenda
1998 510 upgraded to a 520, upgraded to power pro with double tilt and lift assist.
1998 bandsaw
2016 beltsander
jointer
overarm pin router
1998 510 upgraded to a 520, upgraded to power pro with double tilt and lift assist.
1998 bandsaw
2016 beltsander
jointer
overarm pin router
Re: 10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
You know, my 3 year old daughter just spilled the beans about a new purse and my wife tried to shush her... So maybe I'm due for a new tool!JPG wrote:Ask her how many purses she has.![]()
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Re: 10ER quill return spring safe insertion into housing
Ahh but in your 'case' thee would be the one to want 'another' tool!thunderbirdbat wrote:Be warned that does not always work. When I was on active duty the only purse I had was the one I had to keep for a full sea bag but otherwise I did not have any and now that I'm retired, I got rid of that one too.JPG wrote:Ask her how many purses she has.badtheba wrote:
I've already dropped the hint to my wife (received eye roll). Even though I have a barely started project one in the garage, lol.![]()
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange