indexing wheel question
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indexing wheel question
Hi,
Sometime in the past, either here or else where, in a post someone mentioned this indexing wheel with a bore of 1-1/4". I saved the url of the place that was selling them which is:
http://www.ironfirellc.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=5
I seem to recall the person was going to buy one... is anyone recalling this??? Anyway if you are that person or if you happened to buy one of these I'd like to here what you think/thought about the purchase.
It has been on my shopping list for a couple of years but it has not got into the position of me actually purchasing it... this year it might make it.
Ed
Sometime in the past, either here or else where, in a post someone mentioned this indexing wheel with a bore of 1-1/4". I saved the url of the place that was selling them which is:
http://www.ironfirellc.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=5
I seem to recall the person was going to buy one... is anyone recalling this??? Anyway if you are that person or if you happened to buy one of these I'd like to here what you think/thought about the purchase.
It has been on my shopping list for a couple of years but it has not got into the position of me actually purchasing it... this year it might make it.
Ed
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You could make your on using plexiglass. The templates can be gotten from Bill Smith web site. http://www.smithart.us He cuts a piece of plexiglass about 12 inches in diameter. He has several templates on his web site that you can print from your computer and use spray glue to attach to the plexiglass. You will need to make a holding devise. I have made mine out of scrap wood and plexiglass and use a spring clamp to hold it in place.
I use mine on a mini lathe. Have not tied to use it on a SS but it should work. Since the SS is hard to turn by hand use a 12 inch sanding disk to help turn the SS.
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I use mine on a mini lathe. Have not tied to use it on a SS but it should work. Since the SS is hard to turn by hand use a 12 inch sanding disk to help turn the SS.
James
Thanks for the site, it was fun looking around!
I had thought about making my own and I have a cad program that would let me produce about any pattern needed but I don't know if I would love the precision drill required, that would be a lot of work to get things as close as I'd like to see them. Not so sure how close I would need to be as I have not ever tried making one of these. The one shown has 160 holes that would have to be concentric and degree located... I can see that taking hours to do. Of course once you have one to use you can make all the extra's you want.
I was planning on using this for drilling operations and perhaps some router operations... the segment turning is something I've never done and I don't know if I could ever get interested enough to try it.... nice to look at but I have a feeling that is the extent of it for me.
For now I guess it is in the 2009 budget, pending more information.
Ed
I had thought about making my own and I have a cad program that would let me produce about any pattern needed but I don't know if I would love the precision drill required, that would be a lot of work to get things as close as I'd like to see them. Not so sure how close I would need to be as I have not ever tried making one of these. The one shown has 160 holes that would have to be concentric and degree located... I can see that taking hours to do. Of course once you have one to use you can make all the extra's you want.
I was planning on using this for drilling operations and perhaps some router operations... the segment turning is something I've never done and I don't know if I could ever get interested enough to try it.... nice to look at but I have a feeling that is the extent of it for me.
For now I guess it is in the 2009 budget, pending more information.
Ed
jbooher wrote:You could make your on using plexiglass. The templates can be gotten from Bill Smith web site. www.smithart.us He cuts a piece of plexiglass about 12 inches in diameter. He has several templates on his web site that you can print from your computer and use spray glue to attach to the plexiglass. You will need to make a holding devise. I have made mine out of scrap wood and plexiglass and use a spring clamp to hold it in place.
I use mine on a mini lathe. Have not tied to use it on a SS but it should work. Since the SS is hard to turn by hand use a 12 inch sanding disk to help turn the SS.
James
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Funny how this forum works
Ed,
Have you been able to look at Nicks sawdust session #8. He has a jig plan for the OPR that I plan on modifying the idea to use his ring on the chuck but having it mounted on the ss instead of on his jig. I will also make his jig as I can see some other uses for it that can't be done when mounted on the SS.
Happy hunting. The segmented rings bowls can be a easy or complicated as you choose. The one I made form SHMBO had no fancy designs in it and it functions for her and I got to cut miters/glue/and turn for her project. It was satisfying.
Have you been able to look at Nicks sawdust session #8. He has a jig plan for the OPR that I plan on modifying the idea to use his ring on the chuck but having it mounted on the ss instead of on his jig. I will also make his jig as I can see some other uses for it that can't be done when mounted on the SS.
Happy hunting. The segmented rings bowls can be a easy or complicated as you choose. The one I made form SHMBO had no fancy designs in it and it functions for her and I got to cut miters/glue/and turn for her project. It was satisfying.
SS 500 upgraded to 510; SS bandsaw; SS jointer
SS Oscillating Drum Sander; Universal Lathe Rest;
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Sander
Jim
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Hi,
I think that is one I watched. I don't recall just how he had it setup so I will have to go watch it again.
This did remind me of Tip #53 in the shopsmith tip area where if you find figure 22-49 they have a special indexing fixture for fluting legs on the OPR. That same jig also appears on page 275 of the current PTWFE.
That jig or something like it is on my list of jigs to build and the indexing wheel I'm interested in (the subject of this post) would be used to make the indexing wheel that the jig needs. The cool part is the way I'm planning to do it... If your interested I can share the plans else where sometime.
Ed
I think that is one I watched. I don't recall just how he had it setup so I will have to go watch it again.
This did remind me of Tip #53 in the shopsmith tip area where if you find figure 22-49 they have a special indexing fixture for fluting legs on the OPR. That same jig also appears on page 275 of the current PTWFE.
That jig or something like it is on my list of jigs to build and the indexing wheel I'm interested in (the subject of this post) would be used to make the indexing wheel that the jig needs. The cool part is the way I'm planning to do it... If your interested I can share the plans else where sometime.
Ed
kd6vpe wrote:Ed,
Have you been able to look at Nicks sawdust session #8. He has a jig plan for the OPR that I plan on modifying the idea to use his ring on the chuck but having it mounted on the ss instead of on his jig. I will also make his jig as I can see some other uses for it that can't be done when mounted on the SS.
Happy hunting. The segmented rings bowls can be a easy or complicated as you choose. The one I made form SHMBO had no fancy designs in it and it functions for her and I got to cut miters/glue/and turn for her project. It was satisfying.
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Geez everytime I open my ptfe book I find something I forgot about. Thank you for the info. This is almost like Nicks plans only this will adjust for tapered legs. Thank you. And yes I would be interested in your future ideas. I'm looking at this to help me make the twisted candle holders faster and with less time drilling and sanding. I'm hoping to make the jig control the horizontal path of the router along with the vertical. Thank you for the instiration.
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"Indexing wheel on the shopsmith"
I have used a wheel as such with some favorable results. I build my own 3mm thick disk, scribed my 24 divisions, drilled the center @ 5/8 and mount it between the nova chuck and the spindle. Pinned into the aluminum collar. there is zero movement on the 'turned' piece.
I was thinking about mounting the index wheel on the rear shaft in a chuck but there is always some 'give' between that shaft and the spindle.
I had to fashion an indexing pin that is permanently mounted on the headstock but that is not interfering with any other function so not a problem.
I have included some pictures on my flicker account which is pretty much self explanatory but in revers order starting at #207. I build the indexing pin from the same kind of material - solid formica used in electrical insulation work but at 5/64" thick.
The whole process is only one third of the job. The next stage is to mount a router to travel along the length of the wood to cut the flutes. Part three would be to have the stock rotate while the router travels at a constant pitch.
Any Ideas would be helpful - a new thread maybe? A Shopsmith router/lathe or shopsmith/legacy style is my intention
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28553500@N06/
Regards
Sandy in NZ
I have used a wheel as such with some favorable results. I build my own 3mm thick disk, scribed my 24 divisions, drilled the center @ 5/8 and mount it between the nova chuck and the spindle. Pinned into the aluminum collar. there is zero movement on the 'turned' piece.
I was thinking about mounting the index wheel on the rear shaft in a chuck but there is always some 'give' between that shaft and the spindle.
I had to fashion an indexing pin that is permanently mounted on the headstock but that is not interfering with any other function so not a problem.
I have included some pictures on my flicker account which is pretty much self explanatory but in revers order starting at #207. I build the indexing pin from the same kind of material - solid formica used in electrical insulation work but at 5/64" thick.
The whole process is only one third of the job. The next stage is to mount a router to travel along the length of the wood to cut the flutes. Part three would be to have the stock rotate while the router travels at a constant pitch.
Any Ideas would be helpful - a new thread maybe? A Shopsmith router/lathe or shopsmith/legacy style is my intention
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28553500@N06/
Regards
Sandy in NZ
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