My son has a 10er and called to inform me that what I gave him was a piece of junk. end quote ha
Ok,he was using the drill press with a 7/8" bit and it would not stay tight in the chuck. He says he had in aligned with flats and got it as tight as he could but it still would come loose. He is on a good day 8-9 hrs away.
When I called back, he said he had it on high speed, but the bit was jammed and he was not going to do anything more.
Could the gear ring and teeth on the jaws be a problem?
Ideas?
Bob
Drill chuck not staying locked.
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Re: Drill chuck not staying locked.
You need to round robin method using the three holes in the chuck and tighten progressively.
Drill speed depends on bit type, size and material being drilled. Fast is not always better! Find a chart and pick a speed close to the recommendation.
Ed
Drill speed depends on bit type, size and material being drilled. Fast is not always better! Find a chart and pick a speed close to the recommendation.
Ed
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Re: Drill chuck not staying locked.
High speed on a 10ER without a speed changer is 3450RPM. That is way way too high for a 7/8" bit. Speed varies depending on the type of bit and type of wood. For twist drills the speeds are 500RPM to 750RPM.BobCoates1953 wrote:My son has a 10er and called to inform me that what I gave him was a piece of junk. end quote ha
Ok,he was using the drill press with a 7/8" bit and it would not stay tight in the chuck. He says he had in aligned with flats and got it as tight as he could but it still would come loose. He is on a good day 8-9 hrs away.
When I called back, he said he had it on high speed, but the bit was jammed and he was not going to do anything more.
Could the gear ring and teeth on the jaws be a problem?
Ideas?
Bob
Here is a link to Wood Magazines drill speed chart.
https://images.meredith.com/wood/images ... dchart.pdf
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Re: Drill chuck not staying locked.
How to tell if jaws/gears are bad. Can the shopsmith be taken apart to check?
Re: Drill chuck not staying locked.
There is a good thread on rebuilding drill chucks.BobCoates1953 wrote:How to tell if jaws/gears are bad. Can the shopsmith be taken apart to check?
https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/main ... t4262.html
Also follow the links in the posts.
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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Re: Drill chuck not staying locked.
If the Drill Chuck has been rusted in years past then "de-rusted" and cleaned up it could have internal damage to the jaw teeth or the threads in the ring. Only opening it up will revel if is has rust pitting or other damage to the chuck. If you cannot open it up check to see if the jaws are loose in the chuck at any point between fully open and closed. If so it is likely damaged. The teeth in the jaws should be tight with the threads in the split ring.
Russ
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Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
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Re: Drill chuck not staying locked.
Thanks for input, will pass info to my son and investigate when I see him again. Probably not until spring.
Re: Drill chuck not staying locked.
If it is the Jacobs chuck (used on a lot of 10ERs) there is a rebuild kit available from Jacobs. the chuck is a variation of their #33 if I remember right.
And did you say a 7/8 drill, that is way over capacity for these chucks. So no wonder it is jammed.
And did you say a 7/8 drill, that is way over capacity for these chucks. So no wonder it is jammed.