DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Forum for Maintenance and Repair topics. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

CNC4FUN
Gold Member
Posts: 25
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:32 pm

Re: DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Post by CNC4FUN »

There is already smaller timing belt that is connecting power takeoff shaft to the spindle/ quill.
I thought to connect new DVR motor with spindle and get rid off power takeoff since I never used it.
There is enough room in headstock to slide motor back and have a belt inside too.

Motor mounting will be a little bit more difficult but doable.
Will see.

Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk
CNC4FUN
Gold Member
Posts: 25
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:32 pm

Re: DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Post by CNC4FUN »

Cut 80mm pocket for motor flange on CNC mill. Everything fits like a glove.
I tried to upload video of motor running but file is to large for this forum.
New belt should be here tomorrow for a real test.
20200202_154341.jpg
20200202_154341.jpg (87.41 KiB) Viewed 9483 times
20200202_192741.jpg
20200202_192741.jpg (49.28 KiB) Viewed 9483 times
JPEG_20200202_195144_2752852588717934061.jpg
JPEG_20200202_195144_2752852588717934061.jpg (50.21 KiB) Viewed 9483 times
Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk
CNC4FUN
Gold Member
Posts: 25
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:32 pm

Re: DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Post by CNC4FUN »

Just a quick update.
New timing belt arrived and I installed it without any problem. Thanks for a link to belt calculator.
Since I had everything taken apart I noticed. Crunching bearing noise that was comming from spindle.

Spindle on my machine has two 50x80x16mm bearings and I am looking around to purchase replacement.
Original ones are NSK 6010Z.

If anyone has any advice please let me know before I place an order.
20200203_170156.jpg
20200203_170156.jpg (32.27 KiB) Viewed 9423 times
20200204_134012.jpg
20200204_134012.jpg (48.04 KiB) Viewed 9423 times
20200204_134002.jpg
20200204_134002.jpg (43.91 KiB) Viewed 9423 times
Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk
User avatar
jsburger
Platinum Member
Posts: 6551
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:06 pm
Location: Hooper, UT

Re: DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Post by jsburger »

CNC4FUN wrote:Just a quick update.
New timing belt arrived and I installed it without any problem. Thanks for a link to belt calculator.
Since I had everything taken apart I noticed. Crunching bearing noise that was comming from spindle.

Spindle on my machine has two 50x80x16mm bearings and I am looking around to purchase replacement.
Original ones are NSK 6010Z.

If anyone has any advice please let me know before I place an order.20200204_134002.jpg20200204_134012.jpg20200203_170156.jpg

Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk
The originals are still available. Not sure if some of them are originals but equivalent.

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... 0Z+bearing
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35430
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Re: DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Post by JPG »

You are pretty much on yer own here. You are working with a machine with which we are not familiar.

Yes we are interested in your journey.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
everettdavis
Platinum Member
Posts: 2163
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:49 am
Location: Lubbock, TX

Re: DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Post by everettdavis »

CNC4FUN wrote:Machine is Iron Wood brand.
It is hand me down and motor had some issues even before I got it.

I converted this machine to CNC lathe / horizontal mill and goal is to maybe get to control this motor directly from mach3 someday.

Iron Wood Smithy 10-in-1 Woodworking Machine Super Shop.bmp.jpg

Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk
It was also made in a number of other names. It’s origins were Fox Super Shop invented by Tony Fox. He was a MAGNA / Shopsmith employee who proposed this as an Upgraded Mark 5. Shopsmith declined and he developed it himself. Central Machinery was one of the names it was made under, and it was marketed by Harbor Freight.

The manual is in My Google Drive as well as patent drawings photos etc.
Everett
CNC4FUN
Gold Member
Posts: 25
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:32 pm

Re: DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Post by CNC4FUN »

New bearings are installed and everything is ready to go but....
I just discovered lengthwise crack on timing belt pulley. It is right at key groove and looks like manufacturing defect.
I used bearing puller to disassemble everything and don't think that I caused the fracture.
Image

Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk
User avatar
everettdavis
Platinum Member
Posts: 2163
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:49 am
Location: Lubbock, TX

Re: DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Post by everettdavis »

CNC4FUN wrote:New bearings are installed and everything is ready to go but....
I just discovered lengthwise crack on timing belt pulley. It is right at key groove and looks like manufacturing defect.
I used bearing puller to disassemble everything and don't think that I caused the fracture.
Image

Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk
That's is unfortunate. I am not familiar with that piece and how it differs, yet I can say that a good machinist can likely fabricate something. It won't be inexpensive if you have to go that route, but it can be made. You may be just the machinist to fabricate it on a CNC.

Good luck. Keep us posted as our forum membership grows and others may need the information that you provide and preserve here.

Blessings,

Everett
Last edited by everettdavis on Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
thunderbirdbat
Platinum Member
Posts: 834
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:23 am
Location: Marion, Iowa

Re: DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Post by thunderbirdbat »

Depending on how it is put together you may be able to replace the cracked part with something similar. Is the timing belt pulley a common size or can it be replaced with a similar sized pulley/gear? The belt length may change with a change in size.
Brenda

1998 510 upgraded to a 520, upgraded to power pro with double tilt and lift assist.
1998 bandsaw
2016 beltsander
jointer
overarm pin router
CNC4FUN
Gold Member
Posts: 25
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:32 pm

Re: RE: Re: DIY DVR motor upgrade / replacement

Post by CNC4FUN »

thunderbirdbat wrote:Depending on how it is put together you may be able to replace the cracked part with something similar. Is the timing belt pulley a common size or can it be replaced with a similar sized pulley/gear? The belt length may change with a change in size.
It is "L" style pulley. 3/4" belt width, 24 teeth, 50mm bore, 72mm dia and I ordered some to try to replace it.

Here is a link with some useful information
If anyone is interested

https://www.bbman.com/imperial-pitch-pulley-school/


Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk
Post Reply