Downsizing from 20 X 26 shop to the golf cart side of a garage (9 X 22). I do have some attic space and 10’ ceilings.
What I have: one shorty, bench mounted as sanding station. One restored ER with DVR motor (an ER10 Power Pro), 520 with Power Pro, two disassembled ERs and a DC-3300. Every SPT, SS outfeed table, stand for band Saw, second planer on stand. Second modern style scroll saw, jig saw for ER, SS grinder. ER ring master. Miscellaneous parts and jigs from the eight Mark fives that I have sold.
Non- SS equipment: 6” and 7” grinders (USA), Kalamazoo 42” X 1” belt sander, chop saw.
I am retiring in two months and I will have more time for woodworking. I will place most of the equipment on rollers and move the car side of the garage to work if I need to. The golf cart garage is part of the garage and has its own golf cart sized door.
My initial thoughts are to keep the ER, 520 and the disassembled ERs to rebuild for my sons. One bench grinder and the non Shopsmith strip sander and all the SPTs.
So, should I sell the mini, standalone planer, bench grinder? I can power most SPTs from the ER. I have the SPT drive, mount and the same motor to drive them as the 520.
My plan is to have the ER in lathe mode and use it as a SPT power source. Is there something that I shouldn’t get rid of? Would there be a great advantage to keep the shorty for sanding?
What to keep? Downsizing
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Re: What to keep? Downsizing
Utilize the space made available by the high ceiling. Shelves and wall space for infrequently used items and then you can keep it all. It really doesn't matter what you would decide to part with because what ever it is - you are going to need it sometime down the line. TRUST ME. I have downsized for relocation many times. It is always the same.
Throw out trash and garbage only and then even...
Get rid of the coffee cans full of old bolts, nuts and washers unless you have hands full of the same. You'll will always be one or two short and will have to go to the hardware store.
Throw out trash and garbage only and then even...
Get rid of the coffee cans full of old bolts, nuts and washers unless you have hands full of the same. You'll will always be one or two short and will have to go to the hardware store.
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Re: What to keep? Downsizing
If you are like us trying to decide what to keep can be a pain, seems as soon as we let go of something we have a project that we need the thing we just got rid of ?
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Re: What to keep? Downsizing
I've been working hard on optimizing my 350 square foot basement shop. I had way too much stuff in there, and no room to work. So I'll share what I learned from that exercise.
It turned out that my biggest problem was a whole bunch of the stuff didn't really NEED to be in a woodshop. All that stuff is being moved to the attic, garage, furnace room, Goodwill, etc. That work is still in progress, but has already made a huge difference.
One 10ER is going into storage, for now; I might be able to fit it back in later. The other will be set up as a dedicated drill press. That gives a much smaller footprint, and also saves on setup time.
My SS 610 jigsaw is on a dedicated power stand, but I use it only on rare occasions. So the power stand will either be sold, or go into attic storage. One of my three vintage DeWalt radial arm saws has also gone into attic storage -- it was basically just a backup / spare-parts saw anyway.
I have a bunch of smaller tools and accessories that are stored either on miscellaneous shelves, or else on the pegboard-sheathed walls. Neither method is very space-efficient. So in Phase II, I'll be adding wall cleats to several walls, and building custom cleat-mounted storage units for much of the smaller stuff.
With those changes, I have enough room for everything that actually needs to be in my shop. That includes all the stuff mentioned above, a Mark V 520, a Powermatic cabinet saw, a SS bandsaw on a Power Station, a Jet 14" bandsaw, a SS overarm pin router, a SS Pro Planer, a small Jet drum sander, a workbench or two, three roll-around tool carts (two of which double as machine stands), a 2 hp Jet dust collector, and upwards of 1000 board-feet of lumber-rack capacity. My CMS will also be stored in the workshop, but I generally only use it outside on a portable stand, as my cast-iron DeWalt RAS's are more capable machines for in-shop work.
Oh yea, I also store a lot of stuff in the spaces between the ceiling joists overhead.
If you can wheel stuff out into your other garage bay to work, I'd bet that you won't need to thin the herd very much either.
It turned out that my biggest problem was a whole bunch of the stuff didn't really NEED to be in a woodshop. All that stuff is being moved to the attic, garage, furnace room, Goodwill, etc. That work is still in progress, but has already made a huge difference.
One 10ER is going into storage, for now; I might be able to fit it back in later. The other will be set up as a dedicated drill press. That gives a much smaller footprint, and also saves on setup time.
My SS 610 jigsaw is on a dedicated power stand, but I use it only on rare occasions. So the power stand will either be sold, or go into attic storage. One of my three vintage DeWalt radial arm saws has also gone into attic storage -- it was basically just a backup / spare-parts saw anyway.
I have a bunch of smaller tools and accessories that are stored either on miscellaneous shelves, or else on the pegboard-sheathed walls. Neither method is very space-efficient. So in Phase II, I'll be adding wall cleats to several walls, and building custom cleat-mounted storage units for much of the smaller stuff.
With those changes, I have enough room for everything that actually needs to be in my shop. That includes all the stuff mentioned above, a Mark V 520, a Powermatic cabinet saw, a SS bandsaw on a Power Station, a Jet 14" bandsaw, a SS overarm pin router, a SS Pro Planer, a small Jet drum sander, a workbench or two, three roll-around tool carts (two of which double as machine stands), a 2 hp Jet dust collector, and upwards of 1000 board-feet of lumber-rack capacity. My CMS will also be stored in the workshop, but I generally only use it outside on a portable stand, as my cast-iron DeWalt RAS's are more capable machines for in-shop work.
Oh yea, I also store a lot of stuff in the spaces between the ceiling joists overhead.
If you can wheel stuff out into your other garage bay to work, I'd bet that you won't need to thin the herd very much either.
Re: What to keep? Downsizing
I'd love to see pictures,Toymeister wrote:Downsizing from 20 X 26 shop to the golf cart side of a garage (9 X 22). I do have some attic space and 10’ ceilings.
What I have: one shorty, bench mounted as sanding station. One restored ER with DVR motor (an ER10 Power Pro), 520 with Power Pro, two disassembled ERs and a DC-3300. Every SPT, SS outfeed table, stand for band Saw, second planer on stand. Second modern style scroll saw, jig saw for ER, SS grinder. ER ring master. Miscellaneous parts and jigs from the eight Mark fives that I have sold.
Non- SS equipment: 6” and 7” grinders (USA), Kalamazoo 42” X 1” belt sander, chop saw.
I am retiring in two months and I will have more time for woodworking. I will place most of the equipment on rollers and move the car side of the garage to work if I need to. The golf cart garage is part of the garage and has its own golf cart sized door.
My initial thoughts are to keep the ER, 520 and the disassembled ERs to rebuild for my sons. One bench grinder and the non Shopsmith strip sander and all the SPTs.
So, should I sell the mini, standalone planer, bench grinder? I can power most SPTs from the ER. I have the SPT drive, mount and the same motor to drive them as the 520.
My plan is to have the ER in lathe mode and use it as a SPT power source. Is there something that I shouldn’t get rid of? Would there be a great advantage to keep the shorty for sanding?
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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Re: What to keep? Downsizing
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I'd love to see pictures,
especially of the 10ER with the DVR motor.
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I have given you the condensed version.
I have purchased the stiratech motor in the standard motor mount configuration. These are readily available on eBay. I shipped it to my brother. As I am wrapping up my Afghanistan deployment so it will be a bit before I install it.
I'll find solving problems relaxing in my downtime here, it gives me a sense of normalcy. I do get a bit carefree with my money as I have no expenses. I had reached out to Skip at MKC tools For a DC conversion but he is busy with a move. That pushed me to the DVR conversion. It is about the same price.
Now I would not spend that much in the if I was in the real world but here it is easy to convince my self to splurge and I can afford it. I have several projects waiting for upon my return.
Rest assured I will post it once it is done. The speed range will be 50 to 10,200 on the ER once completed.
I'd love to see pictures,
I have given you the condensed version.
I have purchased the stiratech motor in the standard motor mount configuration. These are readily available on eBay. I shipped it to my brother. As I am wrapping up my Afghanistan deployment so it will be a bit before I install it.
I'll find solving problems relaxing in my downtime here, it gives me a sense of normalcy. I do get a bit carefree with my money as I have no expenses. I had reached out to Skip at MKC tools For a DC conversion but he is busy with a move. That pushed me to the DVR conversion. It is about the same price.
Now I would not spend that much in the if I was in the real world but here it is easy to convince my self to splurge and I can afford it. I have several projects waiting for upon my return.
Rest assured I will post it once it is done. The speed range will be 50 to 10,200 on the ER once completed.