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Another 10ER Restoration

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Hi all, it's good to be a member of this big active forum. Yesterday I bought a 10ER, and am looking forward to getting it all figured out and working. I've got some experience with cars, swapped the engine in a '61 Ford truck, but this machine is my first foray into anything other than very rudimentary woodworking. Inspired by the beautiful work some of y'all have done I've decided rather than just immediately getting it functional and putting it to work I'd like to restore it to it's former glory, befitting the capable woodworking system it seems to be. I'm a self-described diy "tool-guy," so I want to take the time now to make this into something I'll be proud to own for a long time. I've been very impressed with the "greenie" 10ER restorations, and am thinking of doing a similar paint job, but "goldie" inspired. The machine looks to be relatively complete except for the chuck and lathe centers I believe it originally came with. Perhaps a few other bits and bobs. Pictures will be forthcoming, I promise! Any and all advice is welcomed. I suppose my first question is, where should I start? I just want to have a clear idea of my steps so I can be ready for the next one and not stall and have the thing sitting in the garage in pieces for longer than necessary. The basic procedure seems to be: break it down, acquire missing parts, clean it up, fix mechanical issues, and repaint. Seem like a reasonable sequence?
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JNewton wrote:Hi all, it's good to be a member of this big active forum. Yesterday I bought a 10ER, and am looking forward to getting it all figured out and working. I've got some experience with cars, swapped the engine in a '61 Ford truck, but this machine is my first foray into anything other than very rudimentary woodworking. Inspired by the beautiful work some of y'all have done I've decided rather than just immediately getting it functional and putting it to work I'd like to restore it to it's former glory, befitting the capable woodworking system it seems to be. I'm a self-described diy "tool-guy," so I want to take the time now to make this into something I'll be proud to own for a long time. I've been very impressed with the "greenie" 10ER restorations, and am thinking of doing a similar paint job, but "goldie" inspired. The machine looks to be relatively complete except for the chuck and lathe centers I believe it originally came with. Perhaps a few other bits and bobs. Pictures will be forthcoming, I promise! Any and all advice is welcomed. I suppose my first question is, where should I start? I just want to have a clear idea of my steps so I can be ready for the next one and not stall and have the thing sitting in the garage in pieces for longer than necessary. The basic procedure seems to be: break it down, acquire missing parts, clean it up, fix mechanical issues, and repaint. Seem like a reasonable sequence?
Hmmmmmm! Where have I seen that before?
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Re: Another 10ER Restoration

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Well, I have been obsessively reading old posts here for most of the past two days...... Hopefully the craftsmanship rubs off as much as the language!

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I see in the preview that these are all which-way. If someone could enlighten me on how to get them to display in a more orderly fashion I will do so. Thanks!
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There is probably more than one way, depending on from what kind of device you are posting. From my desktop computer, I use either photo editing software or photo viewing software that lets me rotate and save the picture in the desired orientation. You have already mastered the resizing to be within the pixel and file size limit, so congrats on that!
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I’m on my phone (for pictures anyway. Easier to post them from the device on which they were taken, I was thinking.) They look fine in my library, but are somehow randomly rotated in the uploading process.
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Thanks for getting those straightened out.
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Re: Another 10ER Restoration

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JNewton wrote:I’m on my phone (for pictures anyway. Easier to post them from the device on which they were taken, I was thinking.) They look fine in my library, but are somehow randomly rotated in the uploading process.


To speed processing phones always store photos internally as landscape mode and then set a flag as to the actual orientation.

For some unknown reason the team that wrote and maintains the free open-source forum software that this form runs on, decided that they wouldn't reference that flag the way all other software writers do :confused:

The easiest way to get photos to display properly is to always take the photos with your phone held horizontally (landscape mode).
I usually set my phone camera so it takes square pictures [1:1]
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Re: Another 10ER Restoration

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JNewton,

Welcome to the Shopsmith Forum. You asked where to start. I think you have come to the best starting place by joining and sharing here. You can find help here with any questions you may have. Taking it apart as you have started to do is the next step followed by cleaning up the parts. Identifying missing and damaged parts that will need to be replaced.

You said your Model 10ER looks fairly complete and I see you have a copy of a 10ER Manual. Did you compare the diagrams and parts lists with what you have? Items that originally came with your Model 10ER that I do not see in the pictures include the Extension Table and Bracket, the Table Insert, Miter, Upper Blade Guard and Splitter, Belt Cover, Fence, Sanding Disk, Lathe Drive and Lathe Dead Center. Hopefully you have some of these items and there may be others I missed that should be with it.

You said,
I've been very impressed with the "greenie" 10ER restorations, and am thinking of doing a similar paint job, but "goldie" inspired.
So if you want to use colors that match the "Goldie" Paint Scheme I have used Rustoleum Hammered Finish Copper and Oatmeal paint colors on a Goldie Mark 5 I restored and found them to be almost a perfect match to the original colors and finish. You can use pictures of "Goldies" to decide which parts to paint "gold" and which to paint copper. Here is a picture of the one I did to help you out.
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Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
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Today I soused all parts with degreaser, finished disassembling the headstock, cleaned all its components up, reassembled it, cleaned the components that bolt to the bench (correct name?) and cleaned, polished and waxed the way tubes. I spent way too long carefully scraping white paint splatter off the headstock. I was curious how I could do on keeping the original paint, but decided I will be repainting. Whoever painted the bench did it with the shopsmith mounted on it, and they just kind of slopped the red all over the bases.

I did not disassemble the quill or remove the pulley assembly from the headstock. They seem to run true, smoothly, and quietly, so is there a compelling reason to do them?

I’ve been reassembling as I go rather than leave everything in pieces until paint, not wanting to loose something. It looks like the main things I am missing are:
A couple hold-down knobs, one for the table and one (two?) for the table extension.
Chuck (ordered from EBay)
Rear base for the fence (fence and miter coming from EBay as well. I have the miter and will be re-listing it and my base-less fence.)
Entire table riser assembly. How useful is this in day-to-day use? I’d like to have it just for completeness sake though.
Lathe centers.
Table insert.
Bolt for pulley cover.
Correct sanding disk. The one I have does not fit the arbor and has no setscrew.
This gets it all in one spot for me to reference while shopping. Pictures of today’s work and the parts I do have are forthcoming.
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