Control Sheave

Forum for Maintenance and Repair topics. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

edma194
Platinum Member
Posts: 2205
Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:08 pm

Re: Control Sheave

Post by edma194 »

My son helped me get the motor sheaves off. A little tight at first but they weren't frozen. I'll take the measurements when I can, been a long day for me already.
Ed from Rhode Island

510 PowerPro Double Tilt:Greenie PowerPro Drill Press:500 Sanding Shorty w/Belt&Strip Sanders
Super Sawsmith 2000:Scroll Saw w/Stand:Joint-Matic:Power Station:Power Stand:Bandsaw:Joiner:Jigsaw
1961 Goldie:1960 Sawsmith RAS:10ER
User avatar
dusty
Platinum Member
Posts: 21530
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona

Re: Control Sheave

Post by dusty »

edma194 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:57 pm My son helped me get the motor sheaves off. A little tight at first but they weren't frozen. I'll take the measurements when I can, been a long day for me already.

Thanks Ed. I appreciate the effort. I know what those long days can be like.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
edma194
Platinum Member
Posts: 2205
Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:08 pm

Re: Control Sheave

Post by edma194 »

The measurements in your drawing are correct. The diameter of the sheave is 5 1/2".

The control sheave shaft inner diameter is 3/4", as is the outer diameter of the button bearing. The inner diameter of the button bearing is 3/16", as is the diameter of the round button post. Since the bearing is press fit in the shaft, and the button press fit in the bearing there may be slight variances that I can't accurately measure. However, since axial pressure is applied to the button bearing assembly from both directions it should not need an extremely tight fit.

The round button post seems to be 15/64" long, which is also the thickness of the bearing. The square button post is 3/8" on a side and approximately 5/16" long.
button bearing post.jpg
button bearing post.jpg (7.93 KiB) Viewed 745 times
I will double check these measurements later on.
Ed from Rhode Island

510 PowerPro Double Tilt:Greenie PowerPro Drill Press:500 Sanding Shorty w/Belt&Strip Sanders
Super Sawsmith 2000:Scroll Saw w/Stand:Joint-Matic:Power Station:Power Stand:Bandsaw:Joiner:Jigsaw
1961 Goldie:1960 Sawsmith RAS:10ER
User avatar
dusty
Platinum Member
Posts: 21530
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona

Re: Control Sheave

Post by dusty »

Thank you again for your time and effort. This is exactly the information that I wanted. What I conclude from this and what information I already had is that the sheave are initially manufactured the same.

It wasn't until a couple days ago that I even knew the sheave went into the spring. Call me non-observant or slow on the up-take but I did not know. After all, I have had my Shopsmith for just a little over twenty years. I bought it in 1989.

Thsanks again.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Re: Control Sheave

Post by JPG »

"that I even knew the sheave went into the spring" - WHAT did you think was obstructing thy access to that tiny hole?


BTW 2021 - 1989 = 32!
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
dusty
Platinum Member
Posts: 21530
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona

Re: Control Sheave

Post by dusty »

JPG wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:22 pm "that I even knew the sheave went into the spring" - WHAT did you think was obstructing thy access to that tiny hole?


BTW 2021 - 1989 = 32!
Learn something new everyday - if you pay attention!
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Re: Control Sheave

Post by JPG »

dusty wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:36 pm
JPG wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:22 pm "that I even knew the sheave went into the spring" - WHAT did you think was obstructing thy access to that tiny hole?


BTW 2021 - 1989 = 32!
Learn something new everyday - if you pay attention!
Usually. ;)
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
dusty
Platinum Member
Posts: 21530
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona

Re: Control Sheave

Post by dusty »

JPG wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:44 pm
dusty wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:36 pm
JPG wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:22 pm "that I even knew the sheave went into the spring" - WHAT did you think was obstructing thy access to that tiny hole?


BTW 2021 - 1989 = 32!
Learn something new everyday - if you pay attention!
Usually. ;)
True. Some already know it all.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Re: Control Sheave

Post by JPG »

dusty wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:06 am
JPG wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:44 pm
dusty wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:36 pm

Learn something new everyday - if you pay attention!
Usually. ;)
True. Some already know it all.
NOT YET but am working to correct that! :D
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
chapmanruss
Platinum Member
Posts: 4541
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:16 pm
Location: near Portland, Oregon

Re: Control Sheave

Post by chapmanruss »

I don't know it all either but love learning new things.

Ed and Dusty,

Other than the fixed sheave on the Idler shaft being Gilmer instead of Poly V I believe the Control Sheave should be the same. The other differences would be the eccentric with the first Mark 5's made before the introduction in March of 1954 and for a time after but that makes no difference to your questions.

Ed,

I can't remember if the idler shaft is the same diameter from the hub end to the Control Sheave end. I have been wondering that since my post the other day.

I hope all of you are okay and didn't suffer any damage.
Russ

Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
Post Reply