Share your Magna memorabilia!
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Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
JPG,
I agree it was intended to depict the functions of both the Mark 5 and Mark 2. I just noticed that the drawings show only Mark 5 parts to illustrate the five functions.
I agree it was intended to depict the functions of both the Mark 5 and Mark 2. I just noticed that the drawings show only Mark 5 parts to illustrate the five functions.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
Dr. Hans’ Multi-Axis Drilling Machine?!
Not my artifact, but I saw this listed at: https://industrialartifacts.net/product ... ll-display
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It looks suspiciously like this model from the desk of Dr. Hans Goldschmidt:
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Not my artifact, but I saw this listed at: https://industrialartifacts.net/product ... ll-display
. .
It looks suspiciously like this model from the desk of Dr. Hans Goldschmidt:
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John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
It is listed on eBay buy it now $1980.00. Item number 155463168526.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
Or avoid that eBay upcharge, and it can be yours direct from the seller for a scant $1800!! Yikes…
John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
I wish we had a place to permanently enshrine some of this historic stuff and tell the history of the Shopsmith story. It is a pretty unique story in the annals of wood working and innovation. There are some very unique items still around from the earliest days of Hans Goldschmidt's dream. I have Hans' copy of PTWFE signed by the author R. J. Decristoforo, Everett Davis has the chrome plated 10ER presented to Hans and now this item shows up that apparently belonged to Hans. I would buy it if I knew there was a place I could donate it to that would preserve it.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
John - I understand your sentiment. I struggle with the same issue for all the items in my own collection. Hopefully communities like this will develop a new generation of devotees who’ll want to maintain these historic items and add new chapters to the story.
Until then, I’m just going to enjoy the warm glow that enhances my home office decor!
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Given the item currently for sale is sufficiently different from the one pictured with Hans I’m guessing that they’re not in fact the same (part of the challenge for us history buffs as we try to piece together the puzzle…). It’s still an interesting piece of Magna history for sure, just not quite as personal as your signed book!
John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
10-ER Marketed to High School Wood Shops
Introducing the “Special School Guards”
So, I don’t normally respond to listings for single magazine pages - generally I can find the entire magazine for less than the single page - but sometimes someone will pull a page from an unusual publication that piques my interest…
. This is a page from a 1952 publication targeted to Industrial Arts educators, promoting the 10-ER as a flexible machine to allow their students to accomplish a variety of tasks. What I found noteworthy was this passage describing the system configuration:
. I wondered what the “special school guards” consisted of, and lo and behold, the details are in the picture:
. This shows a couple of the very rare accessories - the lower saw guard and lower pulley guard - in use! Never had seen a picture of these in place in any marketing materials!
I know the Magna team was keen on marketing to the educational community (see this section of a Mark 5-era dealer manual: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UYQzZX ... p=drivesdk), and apparently developing accessories for this market to support that objective.
Introducing the “Special School Guards”
So, I don’t normally respond to listings for single magazine pages - generally I can find the entire magazine for less than the single page - but sometimes someone will pull a page from an unusual publication that piques my interest…
. This is a page from a 1952 publication targeted to Industrial Arts educators, promoting the 10-ER as a flexible machine to allow their students to accomplish a variety of tasks. What I found noteworthy was this passage describing the system configuration:
. I wondered what the “special school guards” consisted of, and lo and behold, the details are in the picture:
. This shows a couple of the very rare accessories - the lower saw guard and lower pulley guard - in use! Never had seen a picture of these in place in any marketing materials!
I know the Magna team was keen on marketing to the educational community (see this section of a Mark 5-era dealer manual: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UYQzZX ... p=drivesdk), and apparently developing accessories for this market to support that objective.
John Dalton
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
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Not All Magna Accessories Made in USA
When I collect Magna accessories, it’s nice to find one in unused condition, as that sometimes tells a little bit more of the Magna story from that era.
In this case, I got a 6” lambswool polishing pad (that would fit over your 6” lathe faceplate), that appears to have never been used.
. A little closer look at the inside of the pad shows it was manufactured in England, so then imported and boxed as a
Magna accessory.
. It’s not the only such item I’ve seen among Magna accessories that have a foreign origin - the Swiss-made file set for the jigsaws come to mind. Any others out there that came from offshore sources?
When I collect Magna accessories, it’s nice to find one in unused condition, as that sometimes tells a little bit more of the Magna story from that era.
In this case, I got a 6” lambswool polishing pad (that would fit over your 6” lathe faceplate), that appears to have never been used.
. A little closer look at the inside of the pad shows it was manufactured in England, so then imported and boxed as a
Magna accessory.
. It’s not the only such item I’ve seen among Magna accessories that have a foreign origin - the Swiss-made file set for the jigsaws come to mind. Any others out there that came from offshore sources?
John Dalton
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
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Magna Engineering Sanding Disc in Box
I’m sure everyone here has seen plenty of sanding discs in their time working with Shopsmith systems, so there’s nothing much noteworthy about the disc itself. But I was attracted to a recent auction based on this:
. I don’t know that I had ever seen a box for the sanding disc, and if I had, it was likely in tatters - not unexpected after 70-ish years in someone’s barn or workshop. But this one by comparison looked practically new! Heck, the seller even threw in a free sanding disc and a vintage Magna packet of 12” round sandpaper sheets with my purchase of that box!!
. Just kidding on that last part… The seller was listing a [vintage] sanding disc and paper, and my box was the throw-in. I could tell by the way they prepared the box for shipment (despite the fact that at the conclusion of the auction, I immediately requested they NOT alter the vintage packaging in any way):
. It may be a bit hard to make out from the picture, but they SEALED one end of the box with a nice fresh layer of packing tape… There was also one other condition surprise (presumably from a previous owner?) that the vendor failed to note in the listing:
. But why would you note that?? Who’s going to care about the box condition on a vintage item, right?!
As you’re aware if you tune into this thread, I collect a lot of this stuff, and unfortunately this is all too common a tale for me - so discouraging when these items survive for 60-70 years, only to get this treatment now.
I’m sure everyone here has seen plenty of sanding discs in their time working with Shopsmith systems, so there’s nothing much noteworthy about the disc itself. But I was attracted to a recent auction based on this:
. I don’t know that I had ever seen a box for the sanding disc, and if I had, it was likely in tatters - not unexpected after 70-ish years in someone’s barn or workshop. But this one by comparison looked practically new! Heck, the seller even threw in a free sanding disc and a vintage Magna packet of 12” round sandpaper sheets with my purchase of that box!!
. Just kidding on that last part… The seller was listing a [vintage] sanding disc and paper, and my box was the throw-in. I could tell by the way they prepared the box for shipment (despite the fact that at the conclusion of the auction, I immediately requested they NOT alter the vintage packaging in any way):
. It may be a bit hard to make out from the picture, but they SEALED one end of the box with a nice fresh layer of packing tape… There was also one other condition surprise (presumably from a previous owner?) that the vendor failed to note in the listing:
. But why would you note that?? Who’s going to care about the box condition on a vintage item, right?!
As you’re aware if you tune into this thread, I collect a lot of this stuff, and unfortunately this is all too common a tale for me - so discouraging when these items survive for 60-70 years, only to get this treatment now.
John Dalton
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
Accessorize Your 10-ER!
While we generally recognize the SPTs most of us use on our modern Shopsmith systems (OK, “modern” can be a relative term - my most modern one is from the Kennedy Administration…) to be a brilliant innovation for the Mark 5/V machines, Magna got in a little practice developing add-on tools during the 10-ER era before that.
And while I won’t get into the history of these add-ons (instead I refer you to Russ Chapman’s very informative “what when and where” thread at: viewtopic.php?t=26072), I did want to display some of the marketing materials used to introduce these to their customers.
First, the jigsaw…
. This flyer is from 1949, so not long after the original introduction of the 10-E, Magna was recognizing the value of continuing to sell to their growing ranks of existing users.
And then of course near the tail end of the 10-ER run, the jointer was introduced…
. This flyer is an August 1953 printing, so very close to the time of the Mark 5 introduction (which of course introduced its own very similar version of the jointer), but still recognizing the market potential of the over 100,000 10-ER owners at that time - a group that would later be offered the benefits of the full line of SPTs through the advent of the Power Mount Adapter Kit.
While we generally recognize the SPTs most of us use on our modern Shopsmith systems (OK, “modern” can be a relative term - my most modern one is from the Kennedy Administration…) to be a brilliant innovation for the Mark 5/V machines, Magna got in a little practice developing add-on tools during the 10-ER era before that.
And while I won’t get into the history of these add-ons (instead I refer you to Russ Chapman’s very informative “what when and where” thread at: viewtopic.php?t=26072), I did want to display some of the marketing materials used to introduce these to their customers.
First, the jigsaw…
. This flyer is from 1949, so not long after the original introduction of the 10-E, Magna was recognizing the value of continuing to sell to their growing ranks of existing users.
And then of course near the tail end of the 10-ER run, the jointer was introduced…
. This flyer is an August 1953 printing, so very close to the time of the Mark 5 introduction (which of course introduced its own very similar version of the jointer), but still recognizing the market potential of the over 100,000 10-ER owners at that time - a group that would later be offered the benefits of the full line of SPTs through the advent of the Power Mount Adapter Kit.
John Dalton
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)