lower saw guard cover

[eldyfig]

Same here about listening instead of watching tv. I can be just in the other room. Wifey will watch something and try to tell me about it later. When I tell her I already know, she then remembers that I listen while she watches. Unless it is on the Lifetime Channel. Often times she will turn the tv off and go into another room to something else, I will call out, "I was listening to that."

Tony

[dusty]

Thank you, charlese. You have pointed out the errors in my thinking. There certainly is no difference between listening to a radio in my workshop and having a television in there. One is no more or less a distraction than the other.

I have now seen the light and have relocated the radio from the shop to the nearby covered patio. If I want to listen to country music, I will take my ice tea to the patio and relax there in a lounge chair.

Life is too short to deliberately live it unsafely.

[a1gutterman]

Working with a TV in the room may be distracting, but I do not see it as any more of a problem then with any other distractions. I see no reason to move the radio out of the workshop, nor do I see any reason not to have a TV in the workshop. Nick certainly has distractions in the shop when he is performing the Sawdust Sessions. Maybe we should all quit watching them so that we don't give him a reason to do them.

Most people listen to the radio while driving, or talk with their passengers, or use a cell phone, or eat, or put on make-up. All things in life carry a risk: The air you breath can harm you. I do not wear a mask, but I have seen some people do so. The processed foods that you eat can harm you, yet most of us eat them anyway. Smoking can harm you AND those around you, yet smokers continue to smoke.

In my shop, if I want to, I will listen to the radio, listen/watch the TV, visit with my dad, my son, my sons in law, or anyone else that may be there. I will look out of the window, pet my dog, consult my books, plans or computer. I will do all of these things and more.

When I am using a power tool, I will concentrate on the task and let none of those distractions interfere.

When I am driving, I may have one hand carelessly on the wheel, singing along with the radio or visiting with a passenger, but if traffic gets thick, or the weather gets bad, or someone gets close to me, I put both hands on the wheel and concentrate on the driving (I do not turn off the radio or kick my passengers out of the car).

I think that sometimes things can get carried away. I think that it is possible to be overly safety conscious. We need to be responsible for own actions and yet have the freedom to do as we want.

[eldyfig]

How about a better lower saw guard that doesn't have a big open gap between itself and the bottom of the worktable?

Is there a subforum for suggestions to improve SS units and accessories?

[charlese]

How about a better lower saw guard that doesn't have a big open gap between itself and the bottom of the worktable?

Is there a sub forum for suggestions to improve SS units and accessories?

Not yet, but SS Admin has considered including other "sub" forums. The problem is how many and what subjects. There have been many suggestions.

In the first part of your post, you mention the big space between the worktable and the lower saw guard. Could it be you are missing part no. 514115? (aka no. 154 on the parts drawing of the main work table) This plastic part, called the tie bar guard, fills that gap pretty well. It should have been a part that comes with the saw table. It screws onto the table cross bar with two screws. You have to remove this plastic part to put the dust collector hose onto the shaper table insert. Maybe someone removed this plastic part and didn't re-install - or lost it. After numerous removals and re-installations (and temporarily misplacing it, mine has found a specific place in a cabinet so it won't get lost again.

[eldyfig]

Tie bar guard is there. Thought it might installed wrong after I did all my alignments. Appears to only fit on one way.

[Bruce]

Hey, you can't get back on the original subject after someone has changed it. We're talking about TV, radio, and pets in the shop now. As for me, I do like hi-def and stereo. But then, I'm ONLY 52! That makes me one of those brats of the electronic generation. Also, my dog would have to be deaf before he would come within 50 feet of my tools when they're running. I don't know how Nick gets his dog to stay in the shop? There must be a stash of liver treats nearby.

[eldyfig]

Bruce, you caught on to me trying to get back on subject, huh?

My dog stays with me in the shop on late nights, middle of the morning stints because she has a dog pillow out there and I have a box of dog treats I keep next to one of the tool chests. She knows exactly where they are. Noise doesn't seem to bother her too much unless it is from a gas engine. She goes crazy when I start the 4 wheeler.

[woodcutter585]

Does anyone have Lower Guard Installation Instructions. I bought one on Ebay and would like to install it correctly the first time.

[banjo800]

Does anyone have Lower Guard Installation Instructions. I bought one on Ebay and would like to install it correctly the first time.

Hi, I may have what you need. Is the guard the newer one with the clear upper guard? I think it's been in production since about 1982. Part# 505875. If your Mark V is model 500, you will have to cut a portion of the table tie bar. The new retro-fit kits comes with a template. I believe only the 500's need to be modified. Contact me off list via e-mail. (Just click on my user name and select send e-mail)

Martin