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Real1shepperd
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Re: New Shopsmith Owner

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Restore wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:03 am Good morning All,
Feeling pretty good about the SS restore so far but I have run into a small problem replacing the drive bearings that I hope someone here can help with.

I watched the SS YouTube videos on bearing replacements and all went well with the Spindle bearings but the new drive shaft bearings are stiff, after thinking about it I noticed the spacer looks like it is shouldering on the outside race not the inside race therefore the last strike with my dead blow hammer would have transferred pressure to the outside race and damaged the bearings, any thoughts on this? hope I am wrong as those bearing were original part numbers replacements and expensive.

PS: To help me out a little bit I put the shafts in my chest freezer at -10 deg. to shrink them a bit and the spindle bearings went on with very little pressure.
That's why I was taught to press bearings and never to beat on them...even in the center portion. Impossible to tell if you've done damage from your description. If you can remove the bearing again without damaging it, you can tell if you damaged it by examination. A seller on eBay is selling a good Japanese(not Chinese) bearing set for the 10ER for about $50. Set of four....I think that's very reasonable. I have been using quality Japanese bearings since US bearings went NLA. I have absolutely no issues with them even in demanding applications.

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Re: New Shopsmith Owner

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chapmanruss wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:17 pm Keven,

When you said
I'm glad you can talk to Skip.
If you are referring to me talking to Skip, I am sorry if I have misled you since it has been many years since I have talked to him which was before he retired.
I finally made contact!! He blames his recent(two yrs ago) move and terrible cell service. Super helpful and genuine nice guy to talk to. I'm glad I made the extra effort to keep trying. ;)

Kevin
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Re: New Shopsmith Owner

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Kevin,

I'm glad you were able to contact Skip. As you said he is a
Super helpful and genuine nice guy to talk to.
If you are talking about the NTN Bearings HogWinslow 1960 sells on ebay they are a good option to the original Fafnir 205KLL2 Drive Sleeve Bearings and Fafnir 202KLL3 Quill Bearings. I have used the Bearings he sells in a lot of my Model 10 restorations.

As for installing the Bearings on the Drive Sleeve Assembly I use a press and barely allow the second bearing going on to touch the Spacer Ring if at all. The Bearings do not need to be tight against the Spacer Ring.
Russ

Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: New Shopsmith Owner

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Thanks, Russ for the recommendation on HogWinslow 1960's bearing set for sale. And thanks for the tip on pressing the drive sleeve bearings!

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Re: New Shopsmith Owner

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Hey guys, another new SS owner here. I have the A-34 jigsaw and I’m in search of a very specific part before I try to make it. I need the hold down screw and nut piece for the blade guide. I don’t know if anyone has one or knows where to find one. It looks like I might be able to make it out of aluminum round stock but I can’t seem to find any of that laying around either. Part numbers are what look like 134-34 and 134-23. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: New Shopsmith Owner

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Briansmith91,

Skip @ MKC Tools can make one for you, he is out of stock last time I spoke with him and he was going to make some up but that was last summer.... Sooo maybe I need to reach out again :rolleyes:
Skip is a great guy
https://www.mkctools.com/
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Re: New Shopsmith Owner

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Oops sorry that's a different part than what I need but still reach out to Skip he most likely can help.
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Re: New Shopsmith Owner

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Awesome! Already sent an email. Thank you very much.
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Re: New Shopsmith Owner

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Briansmith91,

Those parts, 134-34 and 134-23, are very specific to the very old Jig Saw made for the Model 10E and 10ER. The Washer P/N 134-34W is pretty common hardware. Unless you or someone can make them for you, you would have to find them on the used market. Parts for these old Model A-34 Jig Saws do come up for sale occasionally. I have restored 10 of the Model A-34 Jig Saws and finding parts for them required some patience. In a couple cases I had to be creative, like making a replacement Leather Pump Seal. Another was missing the Sabre Saw Support (134-13) which I was able to make a decent replacement but later found an actual one for sale.
Russ

Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: New Shopsmith Owner

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Thanks Russ. I was afraid of them being hard to come by. I have a few ideas and I have the ability to make it myself given the material. I just need to find the right stuff in the mess that is my garage. I was just hoping someone had one so I wouldn’t have to put the work in.
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