I was turning some small bowls today (D or E on speed control, I had just started the unit was cool) when the unit started making some noise that didn’t belong. Thinking it’s been some time since I oiled the sheeves and speed control I decided normal maintenance was the answer. While on the way tubes I started the unit and turned the speed way up. Shut it down and oiled both with a few drops of light weight oil (the stuff I’ve used for years). Then I ran the motor through the RPM range a couple of times.
It sounded worse. I tried starting it again at low speed and it wouldn’t start, just a hummm while the motor tried to go. I could turn it by hand but it felt heavy. The belts seem fine. I took this picture of the speed control. Things don’t look right but I don’t know what’s happened or what to do. I did notice when reaching the control was warm. Photo attached.
I know many of you will know what's up and what to do. I’d appreciate any help to get my unit back to normal. Thanks for reading.
Speed Control Issue ?
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Re: Speed Control Issue ?
It looks like the button bearing on your control sheave is totally shot. Sometimes you can just replace that part but it is better to get a new control sheave. The “ pork chop” or quadrant assembly may also be damaged. Individual pars are available, or you can just purchase a whole new assembly.
After replacing the damaged parts you will need to do the high speed adjustment. You might consider doing “ upgrade” that Bill Mayo recommended for the speed control assembly.
This thread has some info on how to perform the needed adjustments after you replace the broken part…
viewtopic.php?p=312705&hilit=High+speed ... nt#p312705
You will find information on the Speed Control improvements here:
viewtopic.php?p=185690#p185690
A new speed control sheave can be ordered here:
https://shopsmith.com/product/mark-v-52 ... -hardware/
A new speed control assembly can be ordered here:
https://shopsmith.com/product/headstock ... -assembly/
After replacing the damaged parts you will need to do the high speed adjustment. You might consider doing “ upgrade” that Bill Mayo recommended for the speed control assembly.
This thread has some info on how to perform the needed adjustments after you replace the broken part…
viewtopic.php?p=312705&hilit=High+speed ... nt#p312705
You will find information on the Speed Control improvements here:
viewtopic.php?p=185690#p185690
A new speed control sheave can be ordered here:
https://shopsmith.com/product/mark-v-52 ... -hardware/
A new speed control assembly can be ordered here:
https://shopsmith.com/product/headstock ... -assembly/
Last edited by benmcn on Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:02 am, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Speed Control Issue ?
Here is photo of what the speed control sheave with the bearing in place should look like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm86LKc4ufg
Here is a link for all of Jacob Anderson’s videos. He has provided a wealth of information on how to repair the conventional headstock.
https://jacobvb.wordpress.com/youtube-videos-2/
If you want to attempt to replace only the bearing this video shows you Jacob Anderson technique. The replacement bearing can be found on eBay.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm86LKc4ufg
Here is a link for all of Jacob Anderson’s videos. He has provided a wealth of information on how to repair the conventional headstock.
https://jacobvb.wordpress.com/youtube-videos-2/
Re: Speed Control Issue ?
Great info. Many thanks!!! Let me ask a couple more questions.
1. While things are apart is there any other parts I should consider replacing. For example should I replace the belts?
2. I suppose it's best to do this on a bench and not while the motor is on the way tubes, correct?
3. And I suppose the power lift will have to come off too?
Once again thanks for taking time to assist.
1. While things are apart is there any other parts I should consider replacing. For example should I replace the belts?
2. I suppose it's best to do this on a bench and not while the motor is on the way tubes, correct?
3. And I suppose the power lift will have to come off too?
Once again thanks for taking time to assist.
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Re: Speed Control Issue ?
cmyk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:45 am Great info. Many thanks!!! Let me ask a couple more questions.
1. While things are apart is there any other parts I should consider replacing. For example should I replace the belts?
IIRC you said they were ok, so no.
2. I suppose it's best to do this on a bench and not while the motor is on the way tubes, correct?
Easier fer sure.
3. And I suppose the power lift will have to come off too?
I do not think so(discinnected I think) - I ain;t got one!
Regardless of what path thee takes, this time make sure the bearing loop goes OVER the spring on the porkchop.
Once again thanks for taking time to assist.
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