I was gifted two Shopsmith machines, a 10E (s/n E-2390) and a 10ER (s/n 58599). They are not complete machines, mostly just missing small attachments that make the machine useable, like the drill chuck (which I found on Ebay), lathe fixtures (even the tool rest bar).
I am so happy to have found this active and current forum and reading thru some of the post (plan to binge thru the site soon). I have already found one thread that had important information I needed and posted a question which was quickly answered, which settled another rebuild question (thank you Russ from Portland!). Just a few photos of my treasures attached. Seeking any advice, any comments that will help me refurbish my machines and finding whatever missing parts I need to make them complete. I plan on bringing both back to life and use both inside my new shop, one I'll mostly keep vertical and the other horizontal, to save setup time. I will add questions as I get further into the rebuilds. Thank you for accepting me! Dan
Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
It looks like you have most of the basic parts to both the Model 10E and 10ER. Here is a little history for your Model 10's. Based on the serial numbers (10E S/N E-2390 and 10ER S/N 58599) they were both made in the Eastern Plant. E-2390 probably in 1948 and 58599 likely in late 1951 or 1952. When 58599 was made some serial numbers from the Eastern Plant still had the "E" prefix while others, like yours, did not.
It is nice that you have bench ends for both Model 10's and one even has the Retractable Casters. Nice to have for moving it around. As you get into disassembling both of them you will notice the difference in the parts and why some parts are interchangeable individually while others must be done as assemblies. Try to keep the parts for the 10E separate from the 10ER at least until you know the differences. Since you have 3 Tailstocks and 2 Metal Extension Tables, I believe a previous owner bought the Special Conversion Kit for the Tailstock-Extension Table. This conversion Kit replaced the original wood Extension Table and Tailstock. That Tailstock for the wood Extension Table is the one with the wing nuts. The only Rip Fence I see is the one for the Model10ER. The 10E originally would have had the Fence without a rear lock and the conversion Kit Fence would have the front lock screw straight instead of angled like the one for the 10ER. Just a small example of changes that occurred during the production of the Model 10E and 10ER.
There is some good news as it pertains to missing accessories like the Drill Chuck. The Model 10E and 10ER have the same size 5/8" diameter reverse tapered Spindle in the Quill that all Shopsmith Mark series tools have so most current Arbors, Chucks and Spindles can be used replace the original ones.
Do use caution when buying used replacement parts online. Many sellers do not know much about the Shopsmith Tools they are selling parts for and even call non-Shopsmith parts as being Shopsmith.
Lastly do you have Owner's Guides (Manuals) for both of the Model 10E and 10ER? These will be helpful in not only identifying parts using the parts diagrams and lists but also in using the Tools themselves.
If you want to learn more about the Shopsmith Model 10E and 10ER I recommend the Thread I started titled Shopsmith Model10's What When and Where that can be found at the link below.
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In the other thread you saw a picture of a restored Model 10E which would be like yours but with the original wood Extension Table. Below is a picture of a restored Model 10ER which would be like yours. It includes the Speed Changer, Lathe Chisels and a wobble Dado Saw Blade not included as they came from the factory.
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It is nice that you have bench ends for both Model 10's and one even has the Retractable Casters. Nice to have for moving it around. As you get into disassembling both of them you will notice the difference in the parts and why some parts are interchangeable individually while others must be done as assemblies. Try to keep the parts for the 10E separate from the 10ER at least until you know the differences. Since you have 3 Tailstocks and 2 Metal Extension Tables, I believe a previous owner bought the Special Conversion Kit for the Tailstock-Extension Table. This conversion Kit replaced the original wood Extension Table and Tailstock. That Tailstock for the wood Extension Table is the one with the wing nuts. The only Rip Fence I see is the one for the Model10ER. The 10E originally would have had the Fence without a rear lock and the conversion Kit Fence would have the front lock screw straight instead of angled like the one for the 10ER. Just a small example of changes that occurred during the production of the Model 10E and 10ER.
There is some good news as it pertains to missing accessories like the Drill Chuck. The Model 10E and 10ER have the same size 5/8" diameter reverse tapered Spindle in the Quill that all Shopsmith Mark series tools have so most current Arbors, Chucks and Spindles can be used replace the original ones.
Do use caution when buying used replacement parts online. Many sellers do not know much about the Shopsmith Tools they are selling parts for and even call non-Shopsmith parts as being Shopsmith.
Lastly do you have Owner's Guides (Manuals) for both of the Model 10E and 10ER? These will be helpful in not only identifying parts using the parts diagrams and lists but also in using the Tools themselves.
If you want to learn more about the Shopsmith Model 10E and 10ER I recommend the Thread I started titled Shopsmith Model10's What When and Where that can be found at the link below.
viewtopic.php?t=23647
In the other thread you saw a picture of a restored Model 10E which would be like yours but with the original wood Extension Table. Below is a picture of a restored Model 10ER which would be like yours. It includes the Speed Changer, Lathe Chisels and a wobble Dado Saw Blade not included as they came from the factory.
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Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
Thank you for all the great information! I know very little about these machines but look forward to restoring and using them. I did find and buy one drill chuck at a super low price, but without the chuck key. Budget will slow down the process of buying more attachments, I'm retired. The casters on the 10ER are super corroded and currently inoperable; I suspect this was the part that enjoyed some saltwater soaking at the previous owner's home. Thankfully I'm a retired corrosion expert from the USN civilian (electroplater), so I do have some ideas on how to bring them back to life.
I do not have either of the manuals, but plan to download what I can find. My first two projects I'm playing with are replacing old wiring to the motors and removing rust and polishing the rods (both units rods are 52" long) so I ask what did you use to polish yours out so beautifully? Thank you so much Russ, all info is sincerely appreciated (I don't know many of the parts names, which is obvious). Dan
I do not have either of the manuals, but plan to download what I can find. My first two projects I'm playing with are replacing old wiring to the motors and removing rust and polishing the rods (both units rods are 52" long) so I ask what did you use to polish yours out so beautifully? Thank you so much Russ, all info is sincerely appreciated (I don't know many of the parts names, which is obvious). Dan
Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
Hi Dan, welcome to the forum. Here is the thread of a restoration I did on a 10ER S/N 83974. Hopefully you can get some tips for your restorations.
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
Thank you for all this very valuable information Russ & JSBurger! I loved the details on how JS cleaned up all the parts, but you fortunately have much better tools than I do yet, like the Blast Cabinet and how you turned the tubes to clean and polish, I don't have either ability so far, but soon after the New Year I hope to be able to use the 10E to turn and polish the 10ER then use it to finish out the 10E over the winter/spring.
Really loved the history of my machines by Russ, you answered several of my questions about the pieces I have. I suspect the missing parts are still buried in the storage shed in Otway; the nephew who gave me the machines didn't seem to want to worry over them and is why he gave them to me, I would really love to get access to that shed to look. I'm just really happy to have what I got, so I don't mind buying what I'm missing (as budget allows). Thanks again for all your help! Dan
Really loved the history of my machines by Russ, you answered several of my questions about the pieces I have. I suspect the missing parts are still buried in the storage shed in Otway; the nephew who gave me the machines didn't seem to want to worry over them and is why he gave them to me, I would really love to get access to that shed to look. I'm just really happy to have what I got, so I don't mind buying what I'm missing (as budget allows). Thanks again for all your help! Dan
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
Dan,
Don't go and buy copies of the Owner's Guides online as they are available for free right here linked in the Forum. Check under the Maintenance and Repair section for Shopsmith Large Format Drawings, Illustrations and More by Everett Davis. This will be one of the first four topics. In it you will find a wealth of information on the Shopsmith tools. Some are directly linked there while others are on “My Google Drive” with documents too large to be directly linked. Everett has become the Shopsmith historian by saving and restoring manuals and other documents. On Everett's Google Drive is the heading 10E & 10ER. In there on the top row right side is a restored Model 10E Manual and on the second row middle is a Model 10ER Manual. The link below will take you directly to the Shopsmith Large Format Drawings, Illustrations and More by Everett Davis thread.
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The 10E Owner's Guide has the Wood Extension Table instructions and Parts Drawings. Since you have the Metal Extension Table conversion for your Model 10E refer to the Model 10ER Owner's Guide for that part of the use and parts for the Metal Extension Table. Going through the Owner's Guides will help you get to know the names of the parts and will be a great reference as you put your Model 10's back together. Even though I am just finishing my 25th Model 10 restoration I still refer to the parts diagram and lists to make sure I get everything back together correctly.
Another Forum thread you may find useful is also on the Maintenance and Repair section as one of the first 4 threads titled Everything E / ER - Technical info, documentation, links.
Don't go and buy copies of the Owner's Guides online as they are available for free right here linked in the Forum. Check under the Maintenance and Repair section for Shopsmith Large Format Drawings, Illustrations and More by Everett Davis. This will be one of the first four topics. In it you will find a wealth of information on the Shopsmith tools. Some are directly linked there while others are on “My Google Drive” with documents too large to be directly linked. Everett has become the Shopsmith historian by saving and restoring manuals and other documents. On Everett's Google Drive is the heading 10E & 10ER. In there on the top row right side is a restored Model 10E Manual and on the second row middle is a Model 10ER Manual. The link below will take you directly to the Shopsmith Large Format Drawings, Illustrations and More by Everett Davis thread.
viewtopic.php?t=16113
The 10E Owner's Guide has the Wood Extension Table instructions and Parts Drawings. Since you have the Metal Extension Table conversion for your Model 10E refer to the Model 10ER Owner's Guide for that part of the use and parts for the Metal Extension Table. Going through the Owner's Guides will help you get to know the names of the parts and will be a great reference as you put your Model 10's back together. Even though I am just finishing my 25th Model 10 restoration I still refer to the parts diagram and lists to make sure I get everything back together correctly.
Another Forum thread you may find useful is also on the Maintenance and Repair section as one of the first 4 threads titled Everything E / ER - Technical info, documentation, links.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
Thank you, Russ! I'm loving this group more every day. My kind of crowd. I'm really surprised there's no membership fee, since it is worth a great deal to me. I will be checking out those links tomorrow (if it actually rains), today was raking up a ton of large oak leaves from my forested yard (lots of great wood to use down the road, LOL!
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Re: Bringing back to life: Shopsmith 10E & 10ER
I have my father's original 10ER with all of the accessories that he purchased. But, I'm looking at the final work here and it puts mine to shame. Lots of paint drippings and grime. I did have to rewire the power cord all the way to the motor. I can't imagine what kind of rubber was used for insulation back in the 50's. Although the 10ER has served me well over the years, we're downsizing once again with no place to use it. I've posted it on FB Marketplace for $250 and hope that it can find a new home.