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I am upgrading my woodworking tools and need to know how tall the Mark 7 is in drill press mode. My shop has a 6 foot 3 inch ceiling. Thanks in advance for your help.
- JPG
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About 6' 4" :>{
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Thank you, JPG. Looks like I might have to consider some other options.
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GetterDone
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Does the Structure of your shop allow room to build a pocket in the ceiling to make the extra few inches?
You may have to follow up with reinforcement in the ceiling and trim pieces?
I have installed garage door openers between trusses that needed just a little bit more room.
I am currently up bracing the trusses in my shop to install a overhead hoist.
You may have to follow up with reinforcement in the ceiling and trim pieces?
I have installed garage door openers between trusses that needed just a little bit more room.
I am currently up bracing the trusses in my shop to install a overhead hoist.
Dwayne
1st Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V /Jan./1984
2nd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Mar./1984
3rd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Jan./1981
4th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) 50th anniversary
5th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) Dec. 1996
6th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark VII (1963 ???)
7th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V / Nov. 1984 (Double Quill Bearings)
8th Shopsmith Machine = SS Greenie / 1956
Shopsmith headstock only/ From Shopsmith/ June 1957
1st Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V /Jan./1984
2nd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Mar./1984
3rd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Jan./1981
4th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) 50th anniversary
5th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) Dec. 1996
6th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark VII (1963 ???)
7th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V / Nov. 1984 (Double Quill Bearings)
8th Shopsmith Machine = SS Greenie / 1956
Shopsmith headstock only/ From Shopsmith/ June 1957
- BigKahunaFL
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Re: help needed
If it's only a couple of inches, couldn't you just shorten the four ShopSmith tubes?
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Is the n6'3" estimate with or without the caster elevation?
Finished ceiling or open rafters?
Finished ceiling or open rafters?
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Re: help needed
I'm wondering if this might be the Mark 5/V answer.(?) I estimated my DIY Mark 7 would be ~6'7" though I didn't actually stand it up. Compared to the Mark 5/V, the M7 has more casting beyond the end of the way tubes and on at least the DIY version the way tubes are not fully seated into said castings. All adding a few inches to the overall height in either vertical mode.
Yes, there are numerous variations generally referred to as 'Shorties' (like Mark 4) with full functionality or "Minis". Newer machines like the OP is asking about have different tubes than we are accustomed to with reduced wall thickness and at least the Bench Tubes have some form of anti-crush insert near the ends. I presume this is straightforward and you just have to remove or drive the inserts in on the end you are cutting to ensure you retain the functionality.BigKahunaFL wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 6:42 am If it's only a couple of inches, couldn't you just shorten the four ShopSmith tubes?
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My 6' 4" response is not all that accurate(does not include caster added elevation). Actually I measured the height of the hinge pin from the floor and then measured(crudely) the distance from the hinge pin to the end of the tiebar.
i.e. it may be inaccurate!
i.e. it may be inaccurate!
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- chapmanruss
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Hoot,
Sorry to be late on this discussion but finally measured that distance on my Mark 7 yesterday. My Mark 7 was a Mark V that has been completely upgraded with the Power Pro Headstock and the Double Tilt Upgrade. In Drill Press position it measures 6' 6-1/2" tall with the casters retracted so sitting on the bench ends.
Although I didn't measure it, I believe a Mark V with the traditional Bench Ends would be almost the same height in Drill Press position. The pivot point on the Base and Arm end is about the same as the pivot point on the detachable Double Tilt Ends. Since the Mark V has only a Tie Bar as opposed to an arm part it would be about 2" shorter.
Sorry to be late on this discussion but finally measured that distance on my Mark 7 yesterday. My Mark 7 was a Mark V that has been completely upgraded with the Power Pro Headstock and the Double Tilt Upgrade. In Drill Press position it measures 6' 6-1/2" tall with the casters retracted so sitting on the bench ends.
Although I didn't measure it, I believe a Mark V with the traditional Bench Ends would be almost the same height in Drill Press position. The pivot point on the Base and Arm end is about the same as the pivot point on the detachable Double Tilt Ends. Since the Mark V has only a Tie Bar as opposed to an arm part it would be about 2" shorter.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.