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tom_k/mo wrote:Back to the original topic for a second, how big of a turnout did you have for your meeting?

5. Would have been 6, but one of the members had a death in the family. I plan on seeing more people in the future, especially in the Tri-state area.

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ryanbp01 wrote:5. Would have been 6, but one of the members had a death in the family. I plan on seeing more people in the future, especially in the Tri-state area.

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Actually a good turnout for an initial meeting with not much 'publicity'. Hope the 'tri-state' effort brings increased interest/headcount.
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ryanbp01 wrote:Third, is how reliable will the electonics be, especially in an environment that is dusty. When on the touchpad went out on the dishwasher, the cost was enough for my wife and I to seriously consider whether or not to just replace the dishwasher rather than just the touchpad. Fourth, how comfortable are owners going to be in doing this upgrade on their own.
I find myself drooling over the Nova DVR XP lathe so I exchanged some emails with the Teknatool tech support.

they have instructions on their website for changing electronics for the DVR. the DVR XP is their 2nd generation DVR lathe and the electronics seemed to have evolved somewhat. one of the critical answers I received was that the control electronics (including display/control panel if I understood correctly) was a $300 replacement part.

I'm not sure what it would cost to replace the entire speed control system for a Mark V including the speed control, porkchop, and all of the sheave parts, but I suspect that the cost for the current system starts to look similar.

he told me that the Teknatool DVR motor is made by them with their Japanese CNC lathes/milling machines. he said that they use 3 high-quality (my recollection, not necessarily his term) Japanese bearings. he also said that they had not ever had a failed stator or rotor or a bent shaft.

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One item that Blaine forgot to mention is that the upgrade is for 2 bearing quills ONLY. This is due to the high speed which it will be capable of.
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Only time will give us this answer, but I am wondering, 1) the price of the "upgrade", 2) the price of an all new headstock, and 3) is it worth the difference to do the upgrade with all that "exact" drilling requirements and all.
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The "exact drilling requirements" need not be the show stopper. After all, how precise do motor mount holes have to be.

But, if that precision can not be dealt with, I'll bet that one could purchase a pre-drilled motor pan to go along with their new Power-Pro upgrade kit.:)
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dicksterp wrote:One item that Blaine forgot to mention is that the upgrade is for 2 bearing quills ONLY. This is due to the high speed which it will be capable of.
Dick-

Thanks for watching my back! I knew there was something I forgot!:o I received a call last night from another SS owner who wasn't able to make it but wants to join our merry band of woodworkers.
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dusty wrote:The "exact drilling requirements" need not be the show stopper. After all, how precise do motor mount holes have to be.

But, if that precision can not be dealt with, I'll bet that one could purchase a pre-drilled motor pan to go along with their new Power-Pro upgrade kit.:)
I agree with Dusty re this NOT being a show stopper!

It is potentially a tricky task since the bottom of the pan is not FLAT.

I would hope that ss would provide a template(of accurate scale(1:1)) that locates on the current holes and indicates the proper location for the new ones. From that point it is a matter of technique(should not be a problem to most experienced individuals).;)


BPR: Glad to hear you are 'growing'!!!:)
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Nick wrote:
For those of you who can't attend, I will do this: I will make an audio tape of the Q&A session, edit it, and make it available as a podcast. You can listen to it over your computer or download it into an MP3 player. If you want to ask questions, you can send them to me via the http://www.workshopcompanion.com forum. The podcast will also be webcast through my web site. If you have further questions or comments after listening to the podcast, once again you can post them on the Workshop Companion Forum. My reasons for using my own forum are completely selfish and unabashedly commercial.

With all good wishes,
Has anyone heard from Nick regarding the podcast?

I check his website almost daily and there has been nothing.
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iclark wrote: one of the critical answers I received was that the control electronics (including display/control panel if I understood correctly) was a $300 replacement part.

Ivan


The little touch pad control on my pellet stoves are a $276 +shipping part... I have never had to replace one but a renter thought the one I put in that rental house was bad so I looked it up. He was wrong BTW, the chimney was blocked with leaves and old crud above the vent hole and the control was shutting the stove down correctly. Even the two pellet stoves I dislike a lot and no longer use still have good touch pads on them.
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That rental house is about 15 miles away so just in case he was right about the control being bad I pulled the pad out of the one here in the house and took it along. It only took the removal of 4 small screws and unplugging one multiple wire plug to get it out (30 seconds) and only that long to put it back when I got home. Maybe if this new SS headstock goes over we can keep track of who in our own local area might have a quick swap "loaner" control panel... :D
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