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wlhayesmfs · Post by **wlhayesmfs** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:50 pm

Was looking but missed seeing if you came up with the color for the ER rebuild. Right now I am working on one that will be hammer gold. Will let all of you see it when it is done. Really setting this one up for a dedicated Drill press.

mickyd · Post by **mickyd** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:03 am

wlhayesmfs wrote:Was looking but missed seeing if you came up with the color for the ER rebuild. Right now I am working on one that will be hammer gold. Will let all of you see it when it is done. Really setting this one up for a dedicated Drill press.

Still not 100% certain on the overall ER color scheme. Right now, headstock, motor, motor mounting bracket are Rustoleum burgundy, like in my avatar. Headstock, quill leversare painted metallic gold, nameplate was recreated using brass sheet stock / painted burgundy. Deciding on the rest. It most likely will not be all burgundy.

How long before your ER is complete?

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:16 am

I prefer grays and blacks myself but given the quality of this restoration any color will be terrific.

I guess you can (if you want to) call it a restoration. IMHO - Restorations return the item to original. This is going to be one fabulously reconditioned machine.

PS (10/31/09) Restored or reconditioned, I still think it is going to be fabulous. You can quibble with that if you want but that is my opinion and I am sticking with it.

mickyd · Post by **mickyd** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:15 am

dusty wrote:I prefer grays and blacks myself.....

I guess you can't call it a restoration. Restorations, by definition, return the item to original. This is going to be one fabulous reconditioned machined.

Ah...but the definition your using doesn't include all definitions for the word. As with many words, there are multiple interpretations. Look up restorations / restoring / restore and you'll also see that one of several interpretations / meaning is also:

To put or bring back into existence or use - Merriam Webster Dictionary

The act of restoring]where restoring is defined as to bring back to a state of health, soundness, or vigor - American Heritage Dictionary

Since neither disallow deviations from original conditions, (i.e. brass badges, paint color), guess which interpretation I use? Is that OK? "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the......" (famous quotes, William Jefferson Clinton, grand jury testimony 1998).

p.s. Check out the definition of your term "reconditioned". Notice the word "restore" in it?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:47 am

mickyd wrote:Ah...but the definition your using doesn't include all definitions for the word. As with many words, there are multiple interpretations. Look up restorations / restoring / restore and you'll also see that one of several interpretations / meaning is also:

To put or bring back into existence or use - Merriam Webster Dictionary

The act of restoring]where restoring is defined as to bring back to a state of health, soundness, or vigor - American Heritage Dictionary

Since neither disallow deviations from original conditions, (i.e. brass badges, paint color), guess which interpretation I use? Is that OK? "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the......" (famous quotes, William Jefferson Clinton, grand jury testimony 1998).

Regardless of what the dictionary 'says', bringing a scrap heap back to useful purpose regardless of the degree of originality or 'added/altered' details is restoring it to its original intended purpose!:)

Mike you sound like the kid who pleaded 'but Mom you didn't say not to play in the mud'!

BTW If you do paint it that 'ungodly' purple color, it can not go into your musuem of 'restored' ShopSmiths. Same for the pinkie!

mickyd · Post by **mickyd** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:49 pm

JPG40504 wrote:Regardless of what the dictionary 'says',.....

BTW If you do paint it that 'ungodly' purple color, it can not go into your musuem of 'restored' ShopSmiths. Same for the pinkie!

Guess who wrote all the rules for my museum of 'restored' ShopSmiths?

Rules allow any mods as long as they can be brought back to original condition (looks like no access hole in the sandcast pinkie headstock.

) Looks like I may have to write up an amendment.

a1gutterman · Post by **a1gutterman** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:47 pm

mickyd wrote:Guess who wrote all the rules for my museum of 'restored' ShopSmiths? Rules allow any mods as long as they can be brought back to original condition (looks like no access hole in the sandcast pinkie headstock. ) Looks like I may have to write up an amendment.

You GO boy!!!:D

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:58 pm

mickyd wrote:Guess who wrote all the rules for my museum of 'restored' ShopSmiths? Rules allow any mods as long as they can be brought back to original condition (looks like no access hole in the sandcast pinkie headstock. ) Looks like I may have to write up an amendment.

Once the rules are 'revised', consider taking it a step further and get a '50th anniversary' cover. They be larger and allow a larger hole. IMHO dropping the motor is a better way however.

Do not overlook the need to also add an oil hole in the idler sheave hub. The early Greenies did not have that hole(I do not know HOW the oil was added 'every 10 operating hours' without it)(but then with no access hole......).