Pro table upgrade??

[jcmbs]

All sound advice, however I'm not sold that I need the TS right now but I have recently picked some vibration in the 3650, despite readjustment at the trunnion, a thorough cleaning, lube and wax the machine works good. I'm incredibly satisfied with it overall. I think I will go back and make some adjustments, take a look at the pulleys (getting a squeal on start up) deal with the dust collection issue and install a router lift in the cast iron router wing. Although if anyone has seen the sawstop in action it is impressive and with two young ones starting the hobby a great draw. My dad has the 520 pro fence system and still uses a bench top 10 inch. I think one thing can be said for shop smith that it is an outstanding machine and company that you learn to appreciate the more you use the system. For me the set-up and adjustments were a challenge and took time I did not have, but now I would not give up my SS and there will always be a place for it no matter how large my shop gets. We are looking at two large projects on this house prior to starting on a retirement home in Ohio. The first a Kitchen redo ( as mentioned prior) an attached 32x24 garage. That's along with the numerous other items that need built. However I may still consider the pro fence upgrade for some of the added features with other applications. Thanks for the advice I will keep the other saws in mind but for now I think I will keep the 3650.

Thanks

Jason

[Ed in Tampa]

Jason
If you have vibration with the TS3650 I would check the pulleys and motor to see if there is a dust build up. Then I would try another blade.

As I have said I have used TS3650 that easily passed the nickel test (stand a nickel on edge and start and stop the machine and see if the nickel remains standing) I have also seen one pass the nickel test while actually cutting wood.

If you can't solve the vibration problem with a clearing the dust and a different blade I would focus my time on the arbor. You can replace the bearings if they are bad.

The belt on the TS3650 simply won't take a set and being flat like it is it transmits no vibration to speak of.

If you thinking safe and your looking at sawstop don't stop there check out Festool guided saw system. Probably the safest way to cut wood. Many professional shops are selling their tablesaw, panels saw and radial arm saws and going to guided saw system. I hear the savings in accident insurance pays the cost of the new system. Plus it has superior dust collection to any tablesaw presently manufactured.

[robinson46176]

Maybe I missed it but I don't recall mention of trying a new belt on the 3650?

[dusty]

Maybe I missed it but I don't recall mention of trying a new belt on the 3650?

Yup, he (jcmbs) did. Given that fact, saw no reason to say it again.

However, I am not sure what jcmbs really wants. There are several subjects embedded in this thread.

1) Replace the TS3650 with either a Powermatic or a Unisaw

2) Opinions on the Mark V Pro Table Upgrade (as an alternative to buying a new table saw)

3) Tips for aligning the Mark V 500

4) Recommendations on how to SAFELY utilize the 500 with a tilted table.

5) Fixing a vibration problem in the TS3650

[johnmichael]

Another solution for your table saw issues, space, accuracy, and your current situation is to check out Jointech. They have a SS system... Anyone try this one yet? I have the Saw Train system for my rigid and it allows, with 2 floating tables on the 48" rail system, a very small footprint with the largest stable table system I have found. I am new to Shopsmiths (bought my first used 7 days ago 10ER). Bought a Greenie Mark V 4 days ago and bought a 1986 Mark V 500b 2 days ago. You can check out the saw train at http://www.jointech.com

[a1gutterman]

Another solution for your table saw issues, space, accuracy, and your current situation is to check out Jointech. They have a SS system... Anyone try this one yet? I have the Saw Train system for my rigid and it allows, with 2 floating tables on the 48" rail system, a very small footprint with the largest stable table system I have found. I am new to Shopsmiths (bought my first used 7 days ago 10ER). Bought a Greenie Mark V 4 days ago and bought a 1986 Mark V 500b 2 days ago. You can check out the saw train at www.jointech.com

Appreciate your efforts, John, and welcome to these forums. Anyone interested in either the Jointech system or the Incra system might review some of these threads.

John, you can find many items of interest if you use the on site search engine.

[tryinhard]

Tim,

Your "these" link gave me "vBulletin Message: Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."

Can you try again?

Thanks, Mike

[a1gutterman]

Tim,

Your "these" link gave me "vBulletin Message: Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."

Can you try again?

Thanks, Mike

Sorry Mike, the link works for me??? If it does knot work for you, try this: All I did was to use the SS search link to search for "Jointech Sawtrain" (without the parenthesis). That search gave me 12 threads to look at.