Newbie with shopsmith and 21st century.

[linrogerh]

Hi there,

First off, I know that "netiquette" exists but I don't know all of the rules yet so if I manage to do a big no-no, I apologize and please (kindly) let me know what my mistake was.

My most recent adventure with my "Greenie" (I think that it's a MARK V 500) was that I managed to break the carriage. At least it's the part that I would call the carriage; if you look at the parts repair catalog for the carriage assembly it's the part labeled 157. It doesn't look like that part can be ordered so I thought my best bet would be to use some JB Weld, re-attach the broken pieces, and see if I can at least get my SS running again. (Don't ask how -- the explanation includes the words stupid, idiotic, brainless, and few words that aren't appropriate.)

As of this moment, part of the rod is stuck in the piece that broke off. It seems to me that there should be a way to remove the rod assembly from the carriage, re-attach the broken carriage piece, put the carriage back on its ways, and then re-install parts 158-162. As I look at the roll-pin that secures the handle, it doesn't seem to be a threaded part, so I think that I should be able to tap it out with a small nail. Of course, the last time that I tried to do something the way that I thought I should do it, I ended up with the broken parts and my current dilemma. So I have a couple of questions.

FINALLY!!! THE ACTUAL QUESTIONS:
1) Is it even worth trying to repair the carriage? I'd prefer to avoid engaging in unwinnable tasks when it's possible.
2) Is the roll-pin (part 159) threaded? Does it need to be unscrewed in order to disassemble the rod?
3) Is my post to wordy?

Regards,

[beeg]

1) I think it's worth trying to fix it.
2)The roll pin should just be driven out.

Now to fix it, I think I'd take it to an Aluminum welder and have it welded back together.

[bluekayak]

If the part is not available from Shopsmith, you might find it on eBay. I think there may be several people on eBay that find old Shopsmiths and then part them out. Even if you do not see the part for sale, if you contact some sellers of parts, you might find they have one lying around.

I'd be concerned about using JB Weld on this type of repair. You certainly would not want the machine to collapse while you are cutting or turning wood.

Jerry Floren
St. Peter, MN

[henecle]

You shouldn't have much of a problem finding a replacement there. Just curious, what were you doing when it broke?

[etc92guy]

Ouch, looks like the carriage crashed into the headstock?

Parts are available fronm third party's or you could upgrade to a 510.

[dusty]

Welcome to the forum. I am sorry that it was a broken carriage that brought you to this point. However, with a little of your help, we'll get you make to making saw dust soon.

The handle can be taken off the rod by taping that roll pin out. It would be best if you had a drift pin, of the proper size, to do this task.

Don't use something (like a nail) that will go down inside the roll pin. Doing that will just expand the roll pin more and make it more difficult to drive out. The roll pin has a very slight taper so that it should be driven out only one way. If you tap on it and iot doesn't seem to move, tap on the other side.

There is a 500 table assy being offered on ebay right now. The picture shows the carriage but the description is vague. Maybe.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SHOP-SMITH-TILT-TAB ... 39bd15f57:

There is also a carriage:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Shopsmith-Carriage- ... 3efadcc80f