Schedule a Meeting · Talk to a real woodworker: +1 937-890-5197 · 8:00AM – 4:30PM ET

Shopsmith ER CR5010 pictures

------------------------

I managed to get a couple pics. with my iphone. The machine belonged to a man that worked for Underwriters Laboratories as a testing manager. It is a beautifully kept up machine (the pics. don't do it justice) and came fully loaded. Is it possible that the "c" represents a custom machine?

Mark

a1gutterman

mark-b wroteI managed to get a couple pics. with my iphone. The machine belonged to a man that worked for Underwriters Laboratories as a testing manager. It is a beautifully kept up machine (the pics. don't do it justice) and came fully loaded. Is it possible that the "c" represents a custom machine?

Mark

Well, the picture is blurry, but it sure looks like a "C"! :) I'll bet that there wood be a lot of interested owners of model 10's to see your SS in person.

------------------------

Here is another picture of the "C" I used the flash to high-light the letter, it washed out the red, but you can see the serial better.

Mark

dlbristol

of two things here. One, that is a "C" and two, I have no ideas what it means. My prediction is that this will be a thread that creates a lot of interest, and as mentioned earlier you will have lots of people wanting to see this.

easterngray

Wouldn't it be cool if the C stood for "CRIS" !!

------------------------

What is CRIS? Remember I am a newbie :-}

easterngray

Mark - R. J. Decristoforo was the author of POWER TOOL WOODWORKING FOR EVERYONE. In the first edition he used a 10ER. Note the name on his handsome shop coat below...

"Cris" at work on the Shopsmith

Here's an interesting tidbit on the 10ER history:

"The machines made at the San Francisco plant had an "R" in front of the serial number and those at the Cleveland plant had an "E" (for east). The plants evidently kept track so that no numbers were duplicated. If they had kept that pattern up it would have helped a bunch but after serial numbers get to 60000 range they quit putting the prefix on them so you can't tell what plant they were made in. It looks like, annually, production averaged around 20,000."

(quoted from this website: http://www.woodworkinghistory.com/document_11.htm)

Maybe somebody messed up and put a "C" for Cleveland?

heathicus

mark-b wroteHere is another picture of the "C" I used the flash to high-light the letter, it washed out the red, but you can see the serial better.

Mark

I hope you don't mind, but I had to post about this on the 10ER Yahoo group. To my knowledge, there is no other known serial number beginning with a C.

------------------------

I don't mind at all. I am curious myself. I clicked on the link on easterngray's post and found it interesting that the family I bought it from lived within 3 miles of the Shopsmith inventor (I am only 1 1/2 miles away) so it is entirely possible that this machine is not a regular edition.

Mark

Perhaps you could post me a link to the Yahoo 10er group?

heathicus

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shopsmith10ERusers/messages

skou

mark-b wroteI don't mind at all. I am curious myself. I clicked on the link on easterngray's post and found it interesting that the family I bought it from lived within 3 miles of the Shopsmith inventor (I am only 1 1/2 miles away) so it is entirely possible that this machine is not a regular edition.

Mark

Perhaps you could post me a link to the Yahoo 10er group?

Mark, to continue on the CRIS point, RJ Cristoforo was from Los Altos, or Los Altos Hills. (I can't remember which one.) Both of those towns are close to you, too. I grew up in Sunnyvale, which is how I know about your area.

steve

tryinhard

easterngray wroteHere's an interesting tidbit on the 10ER history:

"The machines made at the San Francisco plant had an "R" in front of the serial number and those at the Cleveland plant had an "E" (for east). The plants evidently kept track so that no numbers were duplicated. If they had kept that pattern up it would have helped a bunch but after serial numbers get to 60000 range they quit putting the prefix on them so you can't tell what plant they were made in. It looks like, annually, production averaged around 20,000."

(quoted from this website: http://www.woodworkinghistory.com/document_11.htm)

Maybe somebody messed up and put a "C" for Cleveland?

Wow. Isn't this very different from information I saw in other threads about 10ER Serial numbers? I thought the story was all the first year's (1948) had "E" for experimental, and when (in 1949) there were modifications made, the "R" came into being to indicate the Retrofitting of the mods.

------------------------

I managed to get some better pictures of my CR5010. It is a little dirty, but maybe we will be able to see why mine is different.

Mark

shopsmith 017.jpg

shopsmith 016.jpg

shopsmith 014.jpg

heathicus

That looks really nice! And I think that's a fairly good representation of the OEM paint color too. At least as close as is possible 60 years later.

------------------------

Hi Heath!

The paint is original and the machine was never restored.

Mark

mickyd

mark-b wroteI managed to get some better pictures of my CR5010. It is a little dirty, but maybe we will be able to see why mine is different.

Mark

.......

I see what the "C" represents!!! It's obvious now looking at your machine!!!

"C" = Clean!!!! Beautiful machine you have there!! You must be very proud of it.

mickyd

mark-b wroteI managed to get some better pictures of my CR5010. ......

FYI - Noticed in the 2nd photo you appear to be missing one of the two gauge rod nuts, PN A2296 and maybe the gauge rod washer, A2297. (The gauge rod is the thing that controls the quill extension distance).

------------------------

Hey Mike!

Thanks! To me it is just a machine that will get heavy abuse making me a $. Your Greenie on the other hand is a thing of beauty. I was showing my wife your amazing rust removal and refinishing. I am going to try my hand at refinishing something-perhaps an abused SS. I don't have your gift, but I will try.

Mark

Edit: Yea they are missing or in a drawer somewhere?

------------------------

I was on the Yahoo 10er group and one owner says his serial # begins with a "P" he gave a link, but it wouldn't open for me to verify. Another owner say's his has no number stamped. His came with a numbered brass tag.

I talked with a friend that played football for Stanford in the 50's and he is good friends with the lead engineer from Magna. I gave him the info. on my serial # and he will pass it on to his friend.

Mark

heathicus

I don't think it is a P. I think it is an R but the diagonal leg of the R blends in with the oval line around the number.