Mark 5 / V Owners Manual Revisons

[mickyd]

Trying to find out how many different Mark 5 / V owners manuals were published.

Can you provide these 4 bits of info found on your manual. I included info mine.

1. Model - Mark 5
2. Revision - TMG-3469A-84 (0)-P-7B* (mine doesn't state revision but I think this is the rev designator. It's found on the front cover on mine.)
3. Copyright - 1954
4. Catalog No. / Manual part number - EM?9100-A-M?-8-55 (? = can't read)

Other miscellaneous tidbits
Back cover - Magna Engineering Corporation, Melco Park, California. Printed in USA.
32 Pages
Exploded views and parts list

If you already see a post with your info exactly, don't post yours in order to help keep the thread clean. This doesn't mean you can't post discussion stuff but just don't post duplicate manual info if you can help it.

[a1gutterman]

I ordered my Mark V 510 in September of 1995 at my local fall fair. I can knot remember when I picked it up off the shippers dock (they wood knot deliver it to my home), but it was before November 15, 1995.

My original owners manual is actually several manuals and other information bound together in a plastic 3 ring binder. All the printing on the cover is in red. On the front top of the binder are the SS logo and the title "Shopsmith MARK V Home Workshop System". Under that is a solid line. Under the line is stated "Instruction Manual". That is followed by two diagrams of the Mark V. One is labeled "Model 500", the other "Model 510". At the bottom are the numbers "845332 1/93".

Inside, at the bottom of the first page are the numbers "845331 12/92".

That page has the table of contents, pictures of both the 500 and 510 and a safety warning. Following that is a section called Introduction and another called Safety. The rest of the manual is split up with dividers. The next section is all about the 510 system; parts breakdowns, how to assemble and align and how to set-up for each mode; then a similar section on the 500 system; Operations; Maintenance and Troubleshooting; and a section to add other Manuals and Literature. And finally (with no additional divider) is the SS Self Study Course. The last page is an index of the full contents of the binder.

I have given you this expanded description because, other then the numbers that I already gave you, I do knot find any identifying marks to indicate catolog numbers or revision numbers. My guess is that the binder was "made" in Jan of '93 and the contents were printed in Dec of '92. I do knot see any copyright information either.

[rkh2]

I purchased my SS in Sep 93 and the owners manual is the same as A1gutterman described in his post. The self study course was numbered 505717 Rev 10/87. Didn't find anything saying copyright.

[heathicus]

Mostly the same here, but a few differences.

It's a white 3-ring binder, all red printing on the cover. The cover has the Shopsmith logo in the upper left, and "Owner's Manual" in the upper right. Below that is a line. Below that is "Shopsmith Mark V Home Workshop System" and below that is a red outline drawing of a 500. The back cover is plain white except for "Shopsmith, Inc. 1984 PL 5054" in the lower left corner.

The first page has a picture of a couple unpacking their newly delivered Mark V with a few paragraphs of text under the heading "A Note To New Owners." No copyright info, no numbers. The next page just has a picture of the man from the previous picture wiping a small round table. Under that is "(c) Copyright 1983, Shopsmith, Inc. All rights reserved blah blah blah." It looks like the copyright notice is for the photograph, but other photos don't have a copyright notice. Next page is labeled "iii" and has the table of contents. After that, it is the sections divided with red tabbed dividers as a1gutterman described. NO other copyrights or numbers, but many pages have "Revised 9/84" on them. This seems to be random. It first appears on page 3, then 23, 27, 29, 30, and I stopped looking for it after that. Does the revision notice mean that only that page was revised? No idea.

The Bandsaw manual has the number 505641 on the front cover. The back cover has a copyright date of 1984 and has the numbers "PL-1547 Rev. 1/85)

The Shaper Fence manual is "Item No. 505508" on the cover. The back has "PL-686 Revised (c) Shopsmith, Inc. 9/81"

The Self Study Course has the number "505717 7/85" on the cover.

The Front Table Extension guide sheet is "Item No. 505626" and has "PL-721 5/79." It is only one page and is of significant quality difference from the rest of the printed materials. It looks like it was made with a typewriter and has simple drawings instead of photographs.

I had the jointer manual, but I sent that to you, Mike, so you'll have to get the numbers from it.

According to the original owner's purchase documentation, the Shopsmith was purchased on 11/13/85 and received 12/4/85. I presume that everything was purchased together.

[JPG]

Model - Mark 5

Revision - TMG-3469A-84(0)-P-7B*

Copyright -1957

Cat. No. - EM 9100-C 1/62

Price - 50¢

Magna American Corporation Cincinnati, Ohio, U. S. A. Printed in U. S. A.

20 pages Safety Rules - about 1/3 page. Speed chart on back cover(p20) All Black/white. Top of inside cover page has speed changer warning instructions. Cover Cool dude with pipe cross cutting what appears to be a 2x6 using NO miter gauge(if he is using one, it is not visible) and holding workpiece near blade and near extension table - cut off free to fly wherever it so desires. Pix obviously made with very shiney SS NOT running! Background - knotty pine paneling with 2x? dust collecting shelf.

[JPG]

Almost like Heath's (pl5074 7/85)

I make the following obvervations.

Introduction / history in a forward section.

Safety 'warnings' are 8 (EIGHT) pageS!

General information is 8 more pages.

Initial setup finally starts on page 17 for 5 pages.(pix show an 'older' gentleman with his SWMBO helping him!

[mickyd]

[quote="JPG40504"]Model - Mark 5

Revision - TMG-3469A-84(0)-P-7B*

Copyright -1957

Cat. No. - EM 9100-C 1/62

Price - 50&#162]
My manual has the exact same number for what I designated REVISION. Maybe catalog number is really how they designated revs??

I updated my first post based on seeing the extra info you included. Glad you did that.

Cool dude on the cover wasn't thinking much about eye protection now was he. Do you have a different safety conscience dude with the black frame glasses inside your manual? Mine is wearing a work coat that looks like a trench coat.

[ddvann79]

Model - Mark 5

Revision - TMG-3469A-84(0)-P-7B*

Copyright -1957

Cat. No. - EM 9100-C 1/62

Price - 50¢

Magna American Corporation Cincinnati, Ohio, U. S. A. Printed in U. S. A.

20 pages Safety Rules - about 1/3 page. Speed chart on back cover(p20) All Black/white. Top of inside cover page has speed changer warning instructions. Cover Cool dude with pipe cross cutting what appears to be a 2x6 using NO miter gauge(if he is using one, it is not visible) and holding workpiece near blade and near extension table - cut off free to fly wherever it so desires. Pix obviously made with very shiney SS NOT running! Background - knotty pine paneling with 2x? dust collecting shelf.

I'm looking for a manual for my 1962 Goldie and I was thinking maybe a manual from a 1950's era Greenie would suffice (seems to be more of those on Ebay). But I'm a bit confused.

JPG indicates his Goldie manual was copyrighted in 1957 (could have been printed later). The Goldie wasn't produced until 1960 so does this mean Magna just used the same manual for the Greenie and early Goldies (despite mechanical differences?)? Since the manuals were black and white, if the specs on the machines are the same other than color, it wouldn't matter. That makes sense if they had a run of manuals published that outnumbered machine production. They would have extra manuals laying around.

However, my headstock was one of the first with a 1 1/8 hp motor so I really would prefer to have a 1962-63 manual. I'm starting to wonder if Magna updated their manuals enough to really reflect differences between machines. In support of my theory, I also have a copy of PTWFE that my dad purchased NEW in the late 70s with no copyright or publication date in it. The photos clearly depict 1960s era machines (they have Magna or Yuba logos on them) and the woodworker in the photos is wearing coveralls over a shirt and tie (no safety guards either). Granted, this example would have been 'perpetrated' by SSI instead of Magna.

Thoughts? Does somebody with a 1 1/8 horse Goldie have an original manual and are the diagrams/references different from the machines with the 7/8 horse motor (circa 1960-61)? Are there any real differences between the mechanics of the Greenies and Goldies produced in the same period, other than the bench tube size and color?

[JPG]

My manual has the exact same number for what I designated REVISION. Maybe catalog number is really how they designated revs??

I updated my first post based on seeing the extra info you included. Glad you did that.

Cool dude on the cover wasn't thinking much about eye protection now was he. Do you have a different safety conscience dude with the black frame glasses inside your manual? Mine is wearing a work coat that looks like a trench coat.

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[JPG]

I'm looking for a manual for my 1962 Goldie and I was thinking maybe a manual from a 1950's era Greenie would suffice (seems to be more of those on Ebay). But I'm a bit confused.

JPG indicates his Goldie manual was copyrighted in 1957 (could have been printed later). The Goldie wasn't produced until 1960 so does this mean Magna just used the same manual for the Greenie and early Goldies (despite mechanical differences?)? Since the manuals were black and white, if the specs on the machines are the same other than color, it wouldn't matter. That makes sense if they had a run of manuals published that outnumbered machine production. They would have extra manuals laying around.

However, my headstock was one of the first with a 1 1/8 hp motor so I really would prefer to have a 1962-63 manual. I'm starting to wonder if Magna updated their manuals enough to really reflect differences between machines. In support of my theory, I also have a copy of PTWFE that my dad purchased NEW in the late 70s with no copyright or publication date in it. The photos clearly depict 1960s era machines (they have Magna or Yuba logos on them) and the woodworker in the photos is wearing coveralls over a shirt and tie (no safety guards either). Granted, this example would have been 'perpetrated' by SSI instead of Magna.

Thoughts? Does somebody with a 1 1/8 horse Goldie have an original manual and are the diagrams/references different from the machines with the 7/8 horse motor (circa 1960-61)? Are there any real differences between the mechanics of the Greenies and Goldies produced in the same period, other than the bench tube size and color?

My 1 1/8 hp Goldie manual is copyrighted 1957, but it also has a '1/62' suffix to the 'catalog number'.

PM me with yer e-mail address and I will reply with a pdf attachment(s) that will contain my manual. This will take some time, so be patient awaiting reply.