Greenie Belt Sander - Undersized Miter Slot?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:35 pm

dkerfoot wrote:So far though, the only one who has reported testing a Greenie belt sander table had the same problem. If some people were to report they had a greenie belt sander without this problem (and the original table), then I'd accept it was a manufacturing defect in a limited number of tables. Until then, our sampling of two shows 100% compliance to this problem.

Your logic is impeccable!

However the creation of a miter slot on the Greenie belt sander that does NOT fit the greenie miter gauge bar is not rational. IMHO

dkerfoot · Post by **dkerfoot** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:19 pm

JPG40504 wrote:However the creation of a miter slot on the Greenie belt sander that does NOT fit the greenie miter gauge bar is not rational. IMHO

We are in complete agreement. Unfortunately, as irrational as the AMC Gremlin was, it still existed.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:27 pm

dkerfoot wrote:We are in complete agreement. Unfortunately, as irrational as the AMC Gremlin was, it still existed.

As does the H1,2,3!:D

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:50 pm

I do not know details about the greenie belt sander but I was unaware that the SPT configurations varied along with the greenie's and goldies. What is the part number for the table assembly in question. The number for my old gray model is 503406.

reible · Post by **reible** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:06 pm

The subject perked my interest so I went out to my belt sander which I think was purchased in 1976ish time frame. It is the same casting as the older models with the large M on the side but painted gray and shopsmith stickers on it.

I know the miter gauge fits its table so I looked to see if the table had any stamping or stickers. Cast in the underside is a 1 and just below that 502995. I checked the 502995 since it looks like a shopsmith part number and it is:
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/itemfind.htm?item=502995&Submit=Find+Item

Then I went back to an older PTWFE and found pictured a two tone shopsmith (photo's are grayscale) and it shows the miter slot being used on the belt sander and text which included "Use miter gauge if possible." I hope that did not refer to having the miter gauge fit the slot.... Just kidding. Anyway it would appear that the design intent was to have them work together.

Now the question is do you want to spend $$ to get a new table or not. I guess I'd lean towards that direction if it were me but everyone to their own.

Ed

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:53 pm

reible wrote:The subject perked my interest so I went out to my belt sander which I think was purchased in 1976ish time frame. It is the same casting as the older models with the large M on the side but painted gray and shopsmith stickers on it.

I know the miter gauge fits its table so I looked to see if the table had any stamping or stickers. Cast in the underside is a 1 and just below that 502995. I checked the 502995 since it looks like a shopsmith part number and it is:
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/itemfind.htm?item=502995&Submit=Find+Item

Then I went back to an older PTWFE and found pictured a two tone shopsmith (photo's are grayscale) and it shows the miter slot being used on the belt sander and text which included "Use miter gauge if possible." I hope that did not refer to having the miter gauge fit the slot.... Just kidding. Anyway it would appear that the design intent was to have them work together.

Now the question is do you want to spend $$ to get a new table or not. I guess I'd lean towards that direction if it were me but everyone to their own.

Ed

That is interesting since both the manual and on line info indicates it is only available as part of a complete table assembly costing ~ 3x.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:10 am

JPG40504 wrote:That is interesting since both the manual and on line info indicates it is only available as part of a complete table assembly costing ~ 3x.

I am not surprised by this at all. Shopsmith has, for years, practiced some hard to understand stocking and marketing procedures. This is why it is so important that one makes maximum use of the skills and services of the Customer Service Department. The folks there will very, very seldom let us down. They are there to keep us operational and I believe they do a phenomenal job. I just hope they can keep up when the dam breaks with a flood of requests for the PowerPro.

What I really hope for is the release of a flood of information about the PowerPro. I think it would be very wise for them to release their grip on the technical information and quit trying to make a buck on printed materials. It is time to make it all available on the web. This is a new age...the information age. Incra is a prime example of the way I believe technical data should be distributed (free and plentiful).

Shopsmith knows that too. This is evidenced by the abundance of catalogs being mailed out to users and potential customers.

Is there a way to tell when new items are added or changes are made to the online catalog?

heathicus · Post by **heathicus** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:10 am

Sorry it took me so long to report, but this is the first time I've sat down at a computer since getting home from work last night. I did check my Greenie belt sander table as soon as I got home and the miter gauge fit perfectly. There was too much rust and dirt and crud under the table to find a number, though.