Polishing in a Cement Mixer?
Moderator: admin
Polishing in a Cement Mixer?
I bought a new cement mixer today, and I'm thinking of using it for polishing aluminium parts. I've seen semi-precious stones tumbled in sand to produce a high gloss finish, and am wondering if I can do the same for my Goldie's parts.
Does anyone have any reason to NOT do this?
Has anyone here done this before?
Thoughts & comments please.
Cheers.
Does anyone have any reason to NOT do this?
Has anyone here done this before?
Thoughts & comments please.
Cheers.
- dusty
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 21530
- Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
- Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona
I HAVE DOUBTS!PG-Zac wrote:I bought a new cement mixer today, and I'm thinking of using it for polishing aluminium parts. I've seen semi-precious stones tumbled in sand to produce a high gloss finish, and am wondering if I can do the same for my Goldie's parts.
Does anyone have any reason to NOT do this?
Has anyone here done this before?
Thoughts & comments please.
Cheers.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
I had a rock tumbler when I was a kid and had dreams of becoming wealthy by making stylish jewelry from common rocks. But I digress.
I would love to see this tried, but like Dusty, I have doubts. But for the sake of satisfying curiosity, I hope you give it a shot!
I would love to see this tried, but like Dusty, I have doubts. But for the sake of satisfying curiosity, I hope you give it a shot!
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
I am just guessing but you would probably need to use a 'soft' abrasive or you could 'grind' your aluminum away in a hurry.
Mike......... Rowlett, Texas, near Dallas
86 MK V 500/520. 59 MK 5 Greenie Shorty. SS Jointer, SS Planer,
SS Bandsaw, SS Lathe duplicator, SS Belt Sander,SS Molder & Shaper,
SS Tenon master jig, SS Mortising kit, SS 2 1/4' Drum Sanders, Ringmaster, DC3300....
86 MK V 500/520. 59 MK 5 Greenie Shorty. SS Jointer, SS Planer,
SS Bandsaw, SS Lathe duplicator, SS Belt Sander,SS Molder & Shaper,
SS Tenon master jig, SS Mortising kit, SS 2 1/4' Drum Sanders, Ringmaster, DC3300....
- mickyd
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 2999
- Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:18 pm
- Location: San Diego, CA
- Contact:
My guess is that the metal fins in the mixer will ding the aluminum. Assuming you were to find a way to protect against the fins, it would take a week or two running 24/7 to work.
Cylindrical tumblers with an aggregate media can be used to polish metal. They are VERY slow as compared to the vibratory type tumblers. For the amount of electricity you'll use to power the cement mixer for 150 to 300 hours, you could buy a small vibratory tumbler and knock it out in a day or so.
Heath and I both did ours with hand held vibratory sanders through a progression of grits followed up by buffing wheels and polishing compound.
Cylindrical tumblers with an aggregate media can be used to polish metal. They are VERY slow as compared to the vibratory type tumblers. For the amount of electricity you'll use to power the cement mixer for 150 to 300 hours, you could buy a small vibratory tumbler and knock it out in a day or so.
Heath and I both did ours with hand held vibratory sanders through a progression of grits followed up by buffing wheels and polishing compound.
Mike
Sunny San Diego
Sunny San Diego
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35600
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
Yes indeedy!!!!dusty wrote:I HAVE DOUBTS!
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- tom_k/mo
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 856
- Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:58 pm
- Location: St. Louis, MO
- Contact:
I also would have serious concerns about using either a Cement Mixer or a Mortar Mixer (there IS a difference) to polish parts. Too much chance to damage the parts and it seems as if it would take a lot longer than a vibratory polisher, or a Soda Blaster, or media blaster using glass beads, or walnut husks.
On another note, I have a good friend that used a mortar mixer very successfully for removing the outer husks from Walnuts he harvested. He just dumped them in the mortar mixer, added some water and let it go for an hour.
On another note, I have a good friend that used a mortar mixer very successfully for removing the outer husks from Walnuts he harvested. He just dumped them in the mortar mixer, added some water and let it go for an hour.
ShopSmith MarkV-520 with Belt Sander, Jointer, Band Saw, Strip Sander, Scroll Saw and Biscuit Jointer SPTs and a DC-3300...
Woodworking Hobbyist (Check out all my Woodworking Plans (http://vbwhiz.isa-geek.net/plans)
Aspiring Sandcarver: Breaking glass one grain at a time.
Black Powder Shooter (love the smell of burning sulfur).
Woodworking Hobbyist (Check out all my Woodworking Plans (http://vbwhiz.isa-geek.net/plans)
Aspiring Sandcarver: Breaking glass one grain at a time.
Black Powder Shooter (love the smell of burning sulfur).
Don't listen to them! Go for it! And take pictures!! 
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35600
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
If you need something to soften the impact of the parts against the vanes, throw a couple of those 'daily smiles' in with the parts!:Dheathicus wrote:Don't listen to them! Go for it! And take pictures!!
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Having polished soft metal parts commercially, I would have very serious doubts about using a cement or mortar mixer. The fins would certainly impact the metal objects and d[font="]efinitely[/font] leave marks. And soft metal (like aluminum) is not polished at all by abrasives. Small oval shaped stainless steel ball bearings works best. And you have to have a large "media" quantity to "parts" ratio just to make sure the parts don't bang together.
Get a small rock tumbler or the vibratory tumbler and small ss ball bearings.
Get a small rock tumbler or the vibratory tumbler and small ss ball bearings.