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mickyd wrote:Good to see you reciting the fastener gospel. Screws vs. bolts were confused in the USA up until the mid-60's until they standardized the criteria. Took 3 winter ASME subcommittee meeting (Miami, San Diego, Hawaii) for them to all agree!!

I still get call an occasional call from US Customs agents on occasion asking me to interpret their documentthey wrote up trying to 'clarify'.

Easiest first question to ask is does it have the capability to be used in a tapped hole? If yes, it 'could' be a screw. If not, it is a bolt (i.e. carriage bolt, plow bolt since you can't turn 'em). If it 'could' be used in a tapped hole, there is a whole bunch of secondary questions to ask. Those are the ones you need to have some experience in since they relate to the design intent.

'their document' is very clear(if you just ignore all that guvmnt gobblygook and confusing attempts to paraphrase that which follows).

I had forgotten the (can you tighten it from the head) aspect(kinda important).

Yes Heath there are wood screws and machine screws.

Good luck determining loose/tight tolerances!

Really! do they expect an inspector to get drawings of the stuff in the crate in front of them to establish tight/loose????:rolleyes:
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robinson46176 wrote:When in doubt call them all "thingy's". That is what my wife does and it seems to work for her... :D
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So what is the difference between a 'thingy' and a 'doo-hickey' or a 'thing a ma bob '?:D:D
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JPG40504 wrote:So what is the difference between a 'thingy' and a 'doo-hickey' or a 'thing a ma bob '?:D:D

They are all "whats a ma callit's".:D
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beeg wrote:They are all "whats a ma callit's".:D
I thought they were 'whachamacallits'.
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damn... do I need to rephrase the question:

Does anyone feel that the stock leg configuration for their 10E/Er is too LOW for comfortable turning? and what have they done about it?
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tkhudson wrote:damn... do I need to rephrase the question:

Does anyone feel that the stock leg configuration for their 10E/Er is too LOW for comfortable turning? and what have they done about it?

OK Just ignore that stuff after post #5.

I have not done so, but can attest to the problem you describe.(I be 6'0"). If I had a lot of turning to do I would do something to raise 'it'.

If you are going to dedicate the 10 e/r to lathe work, raising it is really a necessity. I guess that is a YES answer to part of your question.

I am not sure what you mean by an OEM stand, but I do understand the 10 E/R mount. I would not do any thing to the 'OEM stand', but the Model 10 can be raised as you originally described(with whatever sanitation measures you desire).

Granted we got off subject, but what else are you looking for? A pix of the 'OEM stand' might help us 'understand' your 'needs'.
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tkhudson wrote:Does anyone feel that the stock leg configuration for their 10E/Er is too LOW for comfortable turning?
yes
tkhudson wrote:and what have they done about it?
bought a Mark V and a Jet mini lathe with an adjustable stand.:D

in fairness, my ER10 is not on a stock base. it is on a welded steel frame (no casters) roughly the same height as the OEM base. while it is awaiting restoration, I have been rolling it around the shop on 2 of the NTool furniture dollies. even on the dollies, it is lower than I would want to turn on. my plan is to put it on an "I" shaped dolly of 2x8s with double-locking casters. also, mine is now bolted directly to the frame. I plan to add a ~2" thick table between the 10ER "feet" and the frame. I will pick the caster size (3, 4, or 5 inch) to get the height that I want.
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JPG40504 wrote: I am not sure what you mean by an OEM stand, but I do understand the 10 E/R mount.
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safe bet that he is referring to the original equipment manufacturer's (OEM) stand - the one that was sold as an option by the manufacturer.

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iclark wrote:jpg,

safe bet that he is referring to the original equipment manufacturer's (OEM) stand - the one that was sold as an option by the manufacturer.

Ivan

As in 122-1X? or 12 007 (Metal Bench Ends)? Manufacturer = Magna Engineering?
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iclark wrote:jpg,

safe bet that he is referring to the original equipment manufacturer's (OEM) stand - the one that was sold as an option by the manufacturer.

Ivan


Yep.. that be the one. Had I thought about this before hand, I would have probably used thicker boards and re-located the diagonal braces, along with not being so hard headed about "restoring" those blasted casters that had set in the mud for 30 years (another thing I will NEVER do again) and used a 6" or 8" locking caster.
My option now is to fab some laminated blocks to go under the mounts and probably go with some all thread for mounting bolts ( screws... what ever, lets not go there again) Im thinking of around 5 inches or so of additional height, which would correspond roughly with the poorly designed base it was on. Sure was nice being able to hold the tool close to my waist and not against my leg, having to bend over.
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