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- still_waters_43
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- mickyd
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Maybe it will all be fail safed with electronic sensors. Unique arbors / blades that the unit needs. Blades with have a chip to detect orientation, arbor will have one to make sure blade is on correctly and that unit isn't is reverse...JPG40504 wrote:The Mark 7 was discontinued ......
Be prepared to see a warning label to NOT run the saws in reverse. This would apply to any arbors not having a keyway/slot .
Common sense tells you the blades will not work in reverse, but some idiot could figger out to mount the blade backwards also!
Mike
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- JPG
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mickyd wrote:Maybe it will all be fail safed with electronic sensors. Unique arbors / blades that the unit needs. Blades with have a chip to detect orientation, arbor will have one to make sure blade is on correctly and that unit isn't is reverse.... Unit doesn't see a ShopSmith proprietary chip and it won't even run. This would also give them full control of what goes on their machine. No more aftermarket universal arbors or blades.
FWIW, THAT is a recipe for disaster! I am assuming it was made in jest! If not, you need to get away from the Pacific Ocean!(or go be Gutterman's neighbor).
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- paulrussell
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I think the chip idea is great. As long as we are talking wood chips.
The biggest issue I see is with threaded arbors which are common for both saw and lathe mode. A locking or keyed saw arbor would not be a big deal to provide with the PowerPro. (A second "outboard" set screw would do the trick)
As far as aftermarket lathe items, I would think this is warning label territory. Plus, when the piece starts turning the the wrong direction I don't think it would take long for the operator to notice.
Not to discount that the progress on producing better idiots has been astounding.
The biggest issue I see is with threaded arbors which are common for both saw and lathe mode. A locking or keyed saw arbor would not be a big deal to provide with the PowerPro. (A second "outboard" set screw would do the trick)
As far as aftermarket lathe items, I would think this is warning label territory. Plus, when the piece starts turning the the wrong direction I don't think it would take long for the operator to notice.
Not to discount that the progress on producing better idiots has been astounding.
Paul
520 PowerPro, Planer, Bandsaw, Jointer, Belt Sander, 20" Scroll Saw, Dust Collector, conical disc
Also: 3D printers, and a homebrew CNC
520 PowerPro, Planer, Bandsaw, Jointer, Belt Sander, 20" Scroll Saw, Dust Collector, conical disc
Also: 3D printers, and a homebrew CNC
Hopefully, this is an indication release of the new headstock is in the NEAR future!
Well, we can always HOPE - can't we?:D
Well, we can always HOPE - can't we?:D
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Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
Leonard
La Vernia, TX
Wood Goods - Custom Woodwork
EMAIL: woodgoods "at" lavernia "dot" net
PowerPro 520, PowerPro 500 (was my father's 500), SS jointer, SS Mark V mount planer, SS bandsaws (2), belt sander, scroll saw, SS jig saws (2), strip sander, Jointech system, 12" Delta Compound Miter Saw, a small collection of routers, a router table and a Delta Unisaw. All in a 24' x 24' shop.
- JPG
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paulrussell wrote:I think the chip idea is great. As long as we are talking wood chips.
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Plus, when the piece starts turning the the wrong direction I don't think it would take long for the operator to notice.
Not to discount that the progress on producing better idiots has been astounding.
This is not a good rationalization(ask YUBA! Ask the 'sawstop' 'victim'![hablamas espanol(??) required]) I refer you to your last paragraph above!
It appears the legal beagles are way out in front!
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- paulrussell
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I wonder how much I could get if I spilled a hot cup of McDonalds coffee on myself while attempting to trim my fingernails on my router. After all, both RouterStop and CoffeeStop technology are technically feasible, and should be included in even a $60 Dremel.JPG40504 wrote:This is not a good rationalization(ask YUBA! Ask the 'sawstop' 'victim'![hablamas espanol(??) required]) I refer you to your last paragraph above!
It appears the legal beagles are way out in front!
The thing that REALLY pisses me off about the SawStop lawsuit is that if they wanted SawStop technology, they could have paid the money and bought it. Instead they made the decision to save money and get a Ryobi. (A very low cost Ryobi at that.) I don't know who was sitting on that jury, but kudos to the prosecutions selection team.
When SawStop offers their licence for free, then I'll believe they care about their fellow man. Until then, I can only surmise they are in it for the money and nothing else.
Paul
520 PowerPro, Planer, Bandsaw, Jointer, Belt Sander, 20" Scroll Saw, Dust Collector, conical disc
Also: 3D printers, and a homebrew CNC
520 PowerPro, Planer, Bandsaw, Jointer, Belt Sander, 20" Scroll Saw, Dust Collector, conical disc
Also: 3D printers, and a homebrew CNC