little help in IDing a part

farley · Post by **farley** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:56 pm

thought it was going to be easy.

I have my headstock apart and either the a little spring fell or wasn't on which was making my dial turn hard.

I have the exploded view but can't find the part in order to look it up on proper placement or to order a new one.

sorry for not knowing the words.

the worm part and the metal teeth part are connected to a sprung piece of steel. they in turn have a little piece of spring and wire that hooks I think to the sprung steel and maybe inside the pin of the worm.

sorry this is so bad. can anyone lead me to the right words and a view of this part.

Mark V

Picture of all the parts I am talking about. the little roller pin and spring are hanging where I thing they need to go to.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:37 pm

Notice the hole in the button in the center of the bearing on the end of the control sheave.

That is where those parts belong.

It is not obvious from your pix, but the parts should consist of a u shaped spring with a sleeve like roller on the bottom of the 'u' and the top of the 'u' has the legs folded over slightly. There should also be a roll pin like tube also.

The roll pin goes in the hole in the bearing in the end of the control bearing. The part of the 'u' that has the bent legs goes into the ends of the roll pin.

The 'u'(now closed by the control sheave to form a square loop) goes over the end of the porkchop that it is dangling on in your pix. The speed control must be in fast (max) position to get it to slip over the end of the porkchop as you depress the flat spring that is on it.

To get the speed control to fast, rotate the output shaft by attaching the sanding disc and rotating the sanding disc.

P.S. If this is confusing, call Dusty(He is near). ;>)

farley · Post by **farley** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:43 pm

thanks good explantion, I got in this mess after visiting Dusty and trying to clean mine up.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:52 pm

farley, I'm going to attach an image that I thing depicts the Quadrant (aka porkchop) and the Control Sheave (with the spring clip) a bit clearer than yours. It appears to me, in your photo, that the spring clip is actually there but that it is in the wrong orientation. I just inspected mine and I don't see how it could be improperly oriented without being damaged.

If you have been able to adjust the speed up and down, the clip had to have been there.

I see that you have done as we discussed and dropped the motor pan and are working with this in the drill press mode. Hope that went smoothly.

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Hope these help. You said you were having trouble with terminology. I've added some of Nick's photo images to help resolve that situation.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:54 pm

[quote="JPG40504"]Notice the hole in the button in the center of the bearing on the end of the control sheave.

That is where those parts belong.

It is not obvious from your pix, but the parts should consist of a u shaped spring with a sleeve like roller on the bottom of the 'u' and the top of the 'u' has the legs folded over slightly. There should also be a roll pin like tube also.

The roll pin goes in the hole in the bearing in the end of the control bearing. The part of the 'u' that has the bent legs goes into the ends of the roll pin.

The 'u'(now closed by the control sheave to form a square loop) goes over the end of the porkchop that it is dangling on in your pix. The speed control must be in fast (max) position to get it to slip over the end of the porkchop as you depress the flat spring that is on it.

To get the speed control to fast, rotate the output shaft by attaching the sanding disc and rotating the sanding disc.

P.S. If this is confusing, call Dusty(He is near). ]I don't know about that, JPG, I'm the one that got him into this mess.

farley · Post by **farley** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:02 pm

thanks Dusty, the last picture is what I needed along with jpg words.

I must have pulled the spring off when I droped the motor.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:24 pm

farley wrote:thanks good explantion, I got in this mess after visiting Dusty and trying to clean mine up.

farley, do you know how the loop came off the spring steel or is this the way you found it.

Looking at just the pinion gear, it appears to me that you are at high speed BUT looking at the position of the Quadrant with respect to the button in the end of the Control Sheeve there is too much space. The Quadrant should be pressing tight against that button that has the hole for the "u" shaped spring mechanism.

Curiosity: There is something that looks like a yellow rubber band just above the quadrant. Can you ID that?

farley · Post by **farley** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:43 am

Dusty you wanted to know what look like a rubber band inside the ss.

attached picture shows it's clamped around the wires and screw securely into the side., little different than yours, I think yours was hooked around a hook.

I think the U shaped spring (inserted pix in pix) got bent somewhere in it's life, which was why my speed control was so hard to turn. When I put it on, I noticed it catching.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:11 pm

farley wrote:Dusty you wanted to know what look like a rubber band inside the ss.

attached picture shows it's clamped around the wires and screw securely into the side., little different than yours, I think yours was hooked around a hook.

I think the U shaped spring (inserted pix in pix) got bent somewhere in it's life, which was why my speed control was so hard to turn. When I put it on, I noticed it catching.

Thanks farley, that cleared up the mystery of the yellow rubber band. I suspect your original plastic clip got broken and the previous owner replaced it with this.

I see the spring clip laying there, too.

Have you now gotten that reinstalled and if so...is the speed control working any better?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:14 pm

farley wrote:Dusty you wanted to know what look like a rubber band inside the ss.

attached picture shows it's clamped around the wires and screw securely into the side., little different than yours, I think yours was hooked around a hook.

I think the U shaped spring (inserted pix in pix) got bent somewhere in it's life, which was why my speed control was so hard to turn. When I put it on, I noticed it catching.

That 'Rubber Band' is a nylon wire retainer to keep the wires away from moving innards!

The clip needs judicious 'straightening'. Straightening as in take the curve out of the left side, and square up the bend at the far end.