vertical saw

farley · Post by **farley** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:06 pm

they don't advertise this feature anymore, from the 1950's

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:51 pm

farley wrote:they don't advertise this feature anymore, from the 1950's

Not Recently! Gee I wonder howcum???:D

P.S. That was back in the days when the operator was responsible for any safety issues. Clearly this is hazardous, and folks then recognized that and prudently used with caution! Anybody see a blade guard in the pix?????

fjimp · Post by **fjimp** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:42 pm

JPG40504 wrote:Not Recently! Gee I wonder howcum???:D

P.S. That was back in the days when the operator was responsible for any safety issues. Clearly this is hazardous, and folks then recognized that and prudently used with caution! Anybody see a blade guard in the pix?????

Just looking at that picture makes my skin crawl. I cannot even imagine using that safely. No thank you. Jim

skou · Post by **skou** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:49 am

Vertical saw mode.

Otherwise known as Decapitation Mode!

steve

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:41 am

skou wrote:Vertical saw mode.

Otherwise known as Decapitation Mode!

steve

Or . . . . Open chest surgery tool!:eek:

paulrussell · Post by **paulrussell** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:43 pm

I keep picturing the kerf closing, and the kickback sending the SAW toppling across the room, blade-a-spinning.

paulrussell · Post by **paulrussell** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:20 pm

JPG40504 wrote:Not Recently! Gee I wonder howcum???:D

P.S. That was back in the days when the operator was responsible for any safety issues. Clearly this is hazardous, and folks then recognized that and prudently used with caution! Anybody see a blade guard in the pix?????

Is it any coincidence that Shopsmith (Yuba, not the current company) made product liability history?

http://www.tool-hunter.com/shopsmith-po ... bility-law

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:29 pm

[quote="paulrussell"]Is it any coincidence that Shopsmith (Yuba, not the current company) made product liability history?

http://www.tool-hunter.com/shopsmith-posts/shopsmith-ads/how-the-shopsmith-mark-v-changed-liability-law[/quote

What I find 'interesting' is that the 'set screw' construction design has not changed, and that loose bench tube set screws is a prevalent 'problem' to this day!

shipwright · Post by **shipwright** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:49 pm

I'm going to have to be the dissenting voice here. Someone has to. I don't see where this operation if sensibly approached and carried out (I avoided using the word "executed"... It would elicit the wrong kind of responses) should pose any greater threat than an equivalent cut in the horizontal position. Kickback is something you cause, not something that happens and even then in this position you are standing beside it, not behind it. Also in vertical position you are standing in a good balanced position, bearing no workpiece weight and in an excellent position to CONTROL THE WORKPIECE. I'd use some very low friction surface or rollers on the bottom and pay attention closely, but I don't think there's anything particularly scary about it. As far as the top piece binding from it's own weight, by the time I got that far into the cut I'd be standing at the outfeed end with one hand above the cut ready to pull the offcut away.

IMHO... the universal disclaimer.

Paul M

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:05 pm

shipwright wrote:I'm going to have to be the dissenting voice here. Someone has to. I don't see where this operation if sensibly approached and carried out (I avoided using the word "executed"... It would elicit the wrong kind of responses) should pose any greater threat than an equivalent cut in the horizontal position. Kickback is something you cause, not something that happens and even then in this position you are standing beside it, not behind it. Also in vertical position you are standing in a good balanced position, bearing no workpiece weight and in an excellent position to CONTROL THE WORKPIECE. I'd use some very low friction surface or rollers on the bottom and pay attention closely, but I don't think there's anything particularly scary about it. As far as the top piece binding from it's own weight, by the time I got that far into the cut I'd be standing at the outfeed end with one hand above the cut ready to pull the offcut away.

IMHO... the universal disclaimer.

Paul M

I be standing WITH you on this! Bet Farmer does also!