avispex wrote:Well, I have come up with a few extra questions as I plan and prepare my repairs.
1. How can I tell if I have a 505 or a 500? I am not sure what the differences are between them.
2. Do all Shopsmiths use the exact same drill chuck or do I need one from the same approximate year and model that I have?
3. Will the clear table saw upper blade guard for the 510 model work on a 500 table system, or does it need the 510 table?
4. Is there a trick to getting the dust port off the back of the headstock? In the Sawdust Sessions video, Nick said there was a small screw at the bottom, but I did not see any there. Admittedly, I had pretty poor lighting so I will check again in the morning.
Thanks!
Based on your serial number (20807) and the chart, I believe you have a Mark 5 Model 510 and it is equipped with a 1 1/8hp motor. I would put your manufacture date at Aug/Sep 1985. The size of the table will tell for sure whether it is a 500 or a 510.
I watched the video on inspecting, cleaning, and waxing the quill, but I can not loosen the set screw on top of the unit. Mine seems to be plugged. It looks as though somebody sealed it. Did Any units come with a sealed setscrew? I did not have my camera at the time, but it looks like somebody filled it with something hard, maybe bondo, JB Weld, epoxy, OR something else, then painted over it to make it look like the rest of t headstock casing. I will try to get in there later and take pictures. The other set screw right next to it was also sealed up in the same way.
All units come that way. You shold be able to pick the material out with an awl.
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop. .
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Bob
Keep on trucking you are making good progress and the Mark V is one of the easiest mechanical devices I have ever had the pleasure of rebuilding. Been awhile since I have posted here but your project brought me back to last winter and some of the very same questions i had when doing my Mark VII and Mark V. Just pick the goop out of the top set screw hole as Bob stated and you will be able to get an allen on it and loosen it then pull the quill out while still holding the quill feed stop. Once the quill is free tighten the quill feed stop and the other stop to hold it in place. Clean the quill nicey nice and wax with Johnsons then reinsert into headstock while loosening the feed stops to allow it to be pulled back into the headstock. When I did mine I didn't know all of this and yanked it right out which then taught me that was not the best way to go about it.....DUH! I was taking it all apart anyway so no biggie. Taking the quill feed return assembly apart and putting it back together was a real adventure but I can now do it in my sleep. You are very close to making sawdust keep at it and be methodical and yoou will be fine.
Michael Mayo
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1960's SS Mark VII, 1954 Greenie, 1983 Mark V, Jointer, Bandsaw, Jigsaw, Dewalt Slider, Delta Super 10, Delta 8" Grinder, Craftsman compressor, Drill Doctor, Kreg PH Jig, Bosch Jigsaw, Craftsman Router and Table...........and adding more all the time....
I have finished the cleaning and I am now officially in the middle of the rebuild phase.
I plan to have this completed by tomorrow evening.
I have not been able to come up with a new drill chuck, yet, but I think I will just need to pay a bit more than what I was hoping and get one from ebay. There are some there that seem to sell for about $22 including shipping.
I think I can repair the miter gage on my own if I can determine the right size of bolt for it.
After that, I just need to do a serious inventory to see if what I have all of the parts to run basic functions. There were three boxes of extra things, but being new to the system, I did not really know what they all were. Having spent some time with the system, I have a better idea what I have now. Unfortunately, I don't have a functioning shaper fence, so that will set me back a bit from using all of the bits and cutters for that. I would like to get the sanding drum ASAP also.
But for the main functions, I am close, but not 100%.
Drill-- definitely need a new chuck.
Table saw? I am not sure I have the right arbor or not. There is currently an arbor mounted to the dado set. That may be all I need.
Lathe? I think I have it all. I'm really not sure.
Horizontal borer- I need a chuck for this too, I am guessing.
Sander? I have an old aluminum disc with some pretty ratty paper on it. I have to read up to see what it mounts to. This may be my only current functionality. A little sad, but I am getting closer to full functioning, I think.
avispex wrote:I have finished the cleaning and I am now officially in the middle of the rebuild phase.
I plan to have this completed by tomorrow evening.
I have not been able to come up with a new drill chuck, yet, but I think I will just need to pay a bit more than what I was hoping and get one from ebay. There are some there that seem to sell for about $22 including shipping.
I think I can repair the miter gage on my own if I can determine the right size of bolt for it. The thread is 1/4-20.
After that, I just need to do a serious inventory to see if what I have all of the parts to run basic functions. There were three boxes of extra things, but being new to the system, I did not really know what they all were. Having spent some time with the system, I have a better idea what I have now. Unfortunately, I don't have a functioning shaper fence, so that will set me back a bit from using all of the bits and cutters for that. I would like to get the sanding drum ASAP also.
But for the main functions, I am close, but not 100%.
Drill-- definitely need a new chuck. Try to get a 'jacobs' 3326 vintage.
Table saw? I am not sure I have the right arbor or not. There is currently an arbor mounted to the dado set. That may be all I need. That would depend upon what other blades you have.
Lathe? I think I have it all. I'm really not sure. At least a spur drive, tailstock center, tool rest, chisels.
Horizontal borer- I need a chuck for this too, I am guessing. Same as drill chuck.
Sander? I have an old aluminum disc with some pretty ratty paper on it. I have to read up to see what it mounts to. Quill shaft or opposite end. This may be my only current functionality. A little sad, but I am getting closer to full functioning, I think.
Pretty close!!!!!
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I put the whole system back together and took a careful inventory of what I have.
First I decided to set up the Table Saw and see how it worked. I am not sure how much use the blades I have for this system have gone through. I was either using the ripping blade or the general use blade. I realized that the previous owner had never used the upper or lower blade guards. I tried to figure out how they worked together and I realized that all of the screws are missing.
I need some type of screw to fix the splitter to the upper guard and to fix the upper guard/ splitter assembly to the lower guard. I did have the collar in the lower guard to put it on the quill. I am also missing the bolt/screw that holds the handle of the miter gauge/ safety grip to the base of the miter gage at the very back, bottom of the unit. The Table Saw arbor- I have three in total, Table Saw table, fence, and extension table all worked fine and seem to be complete. I mounted a blade and set up the table depth to make a shallow cut and it worked. Until I get the courage up, I probably won't be doing much more with the table saw until I get the guards built and in place.
The important thing is that I have officially made sawdust! Actually, I felt very awkward on that tiny table. I guess I will have to get used to it.
Next up, I took off the table saw blade and put the sanding disc on. I have the old, aluminum sanding disc with some pretty old, glued on paper. It vibrated tremendously, but did a good job sanding. I am not sure what caused the extensive vibration, but it could have been a sloppy glue distribution on the aluminum plate. I was ok with it.
I am missing both of the small faceplates for the lathe. And I am working on getting the drill chuck. If I can figure out what sizes of screws I need for the guards, I think my rebuild/ fix is complete!
Thank you everyone who gave me such careful and helpful advice. This has been an important project for me and to have gotten to the sawdust stage was a huge step forward to finally having my own, functioning workshop.
