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So, has anybody bought a 240v Powerpro?. I am curious as to what kind of outlet/plug it has.
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It's the same model PowerPro! You just cut off the 120 vac plug and put a 240 vac plug on it and it automatically detects the voltage. The instructions are in the install manual. BTW, I scanned the PowerPro Upgrade Install manual to a PDF file for archiving.
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nuhobby wrote:....
By the way, have you tried the Steel Sanding disk? Very curious if you now consider it as smooth as with your old headstock mechanism.

Ran the steel sanding disks today. Both flat and conical. both disks produced a small vibration throughout the whole machine. I cant remember if this vibration occurred with the old Mark V, but it is nothing that would bother. It was noticeable because I was looking for it, and otherwise the entire unit with the PowerPro is soooo smooth!

I haven't tried the nickle test yet, but my guess is the coin would just sit there. With the old headstock, the nickle didn't fall, but did spin around.
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So I've been trying to figure out why the PowerPro won't start up... now it looks like there is a BROKEN WIRE. When I looked at the 5-wire connector from the controller to the motor, the motor side has five wires... but the controller side has four. The other one is floating loose. It looks like someone got too agressive when stripping the wires, and maybe nicked the copper.

So lets see:

1.) Missing mounting rails
2.) Missing ground screw
3.) Broken wire

GRRRRRR......
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charlese wrote:Ran the steel sanding disks today. Both flat and conical. both disks produced a small vibration throughout the whole machine. I cant remember if this vibration occurred with the old Mark V, but it is nothing that would bother. It was noticeable because I was looking for it, and otherwise the entire unit with the PowerPro is soooo smooth!

I haven't tried the nickle test yet, but my guess is the coin would just sit there. With the old headstock, the nickle didn't fall, but did spin around.
Thanks for reporting, Chuck!

Reconstructing my own Power Pro history.... it was:
- Bandsaw itself wasn't a vibration problem for me.
- Sanding disk initially had a few vibration types that I listed in other threads.
- After scrupulous work on belt-tension-balancing, the sanding disk is now very quiet when not running friction loads. When running high-friction loads, some vibration is seen, but primarily in the quill-side-arrangement. (Not on the accessory side arrangement.) Heck, it may be true that the new machine is really delivering twice the torque to the sanding disk.
- I haven't called CS about a DVR controller bug, and based on the fact that I didn't have the same bandsaw complaint as you, maybe I don't need to.
Besides some heavier sawing and drum-sanding, my main completed project last weekend was turning a pen. It was a very quiet machine for that job, quite relaxing.
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When I ran my PowerPro with my conical disc for the first time, it began to make a terrible racket and after that, any low speed operation was very noisy. Wes at SS walked me through the procedure to change some settings and all is well now.
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riot_nrrd wrote:So I've been trying to figure out why the PowerPro won't start up... now it looks like there is a BROKEN WIRE. When I looked at the 5-wire connector from the controller to the motor, the motor side has five wires... but the controller side has four. The other one is floating loose. It looks like someone got too agressive when stripping the wires, and maybe nicked the copper.
Update - Spoke with Shopsmith today, they are sending Fedex out to pick the Power Supply up to be repaired. Hopefully will get it back in a few days.

Keep you fingers crossed for me that this will be the last hurdle. I want to play with my new toy!
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jayhawk wrote:When I ran my PowerPro with my conical disc for the first time, it began to make a terrible racket and after that, any low speed operation was very noisy. Wes at SS walked me through the procedure to change some settings and all is well now.
I'm now 8 hours into trying to get this same electronics fix info. My unit is rattling loudly again with the sanding-disk; even after it quieted down a couple days ago after I checked the belts.

In the AM today, Linda in Service sounded like she'd never heard of this issue. Then she heard the rattle over the phone and said Wes would call me....

In the early PM today, I called Dave in Service who said, "oh yeah, you need the control panel fix talked through." He said Wes would call me.

Still waiting for Wes's call. His first call to me went straight to my phone's v-mail (no ring) (thanks, ATT !!! :mad: ) and I didn't hear the message until 45 minutes too late. He did mention he'd try to work with me for an evening or weekend call if possible, since I still have my (sucky) day-job.

This will pass, I'm sure.
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Is there not a service manual that came with the PowerPro?:rolleyes:

Does that service manual not have a step-by-step procedure for doing what it appears each of you are having to do?:eek:

Is Wes the only one who has the secret key code?
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[quote="nuhobby"]I'm now 8 hours into trying to get this same electronics fix info. My unit is rattling loudly again with the sanding-disk]

Maybe you can ask Wes if he will share the control panel fix information in a Post, Email or by USPS. You could ask if you can record and/or write down the steps to stabilize the control panel. Seems like he would be working from some list or instruction. Thanks.
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