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JPG40504 wrote:If I understand the 'Manual' correctly, you MUST enter the 'current' password to reset it to '0000'(or a new value). Or are you saying that wrapping through 'zero' twice allows (re)setting it without the 'old' one??? CS could not tell him this??? An overide(hardware reset) IS an absolute must!
Whoops! Thanks, Red! I was in error. You are correct! The 4 digit password must first be entered in order to re-set to Zeros. I deleted my posting. Just went out and tried my quoted method and it didn't work.
Octogenarian's have an earned right to be a curmudgeon.
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Well, Dave at SS gave me a password that got me past the confirm? screen, but it immediately showed Error 1
He believes it may be a loose wire. So on a brand new head stock, I had to crack the case open to look. I couldn't see more than the four wires going to the on-off switch without dropping the motor out of it.
I believe I shouldn't have to do all that work on a brand new head stock. And even if I did, that may not be the problem at all and I would still end up repackaging it for shipping.
This is something that should have been more thoroughly checked before shipping. It's disappointing, BUT they are going to fix it and it's a shame they'll loose profit to the cost of shipping it back and forth.
kennygolub wrote:He believes it may be a loose wire. So on a brand new head stock, I had to crack the case open to look. I couldn't see more than the four wires going to the on-off switch without dropping the motor out of it. This is something that should have been more thoroughly checked before shipping. It's disappointing, BUT they are going to fix it and it's a shame they'll loose profit to the cost of shipping it back and forth.
I am facing this problem too. My PP upgrade was a DIY kit, and I have had problems with the speed sensor wires from the motor to the Power Supply/Controller. Two have broken so far. It seems to me as if whoever crimped the pins on the connectors got a little too agressive, as both breaks have occurred right at the crimp.
However, Shopsmith has been very good about fixing it. The first time I found a broken wire, they sent Fedex out to pick up the Power Supply, fixed it, and sent it back. When the second wire broke on the motor, they sent out Fedex to pick up the entire headstock, and they are going to fix that and send it back. So hopefully, will not take long.
I wish I had not had the problem at all, but they have been very good about taking care of it. I just hope they aren't eating up all their profits with shipping fees. I'd rather see them stay in business.
RiotNrrd
Shopsmith 510 with PowerPro upgrade, Bandsaw, Jointer, Planer, Belt Sander
Incra 1000 HD, Miter Express, TS-III, Wonderfence Other miscellaneous Dewalt, Ryobi, and Craftsman
riot_nrrd wrote:I am facing this problem too. My PP upgrade was a DIY kit, and I have had problems with the speed sensor wires from the motor to the Power Supply/Controller. Two have broken so far. It seems to me as if whoever crimped the pins on the connectors got a little too agressive, as both breaks have occurred right at the crimp.
However, Shopsmith has been very good about fixing it. The first time I found a broken wire, they sent Fedex out to pick up the Power Supply, fixed it, and sent it back. When the second wire broke on the motor, they sent out Fedex to pick up the entire headstock, and they are going to fix that and send it back. So hopefully, will not take long.
I wish I had not had the problem at all, but they have been very good about taking care of it. I just hope they aren't eating up all their profits with shipping fees. I'd rather see them stay in business.
Taking care of 'problems' is what has/will keep them so!IMHO
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riot_nrrd wrote:I am facing this problem too. My PP upgrade was a DIY kit, and I have had problems with the speed sensor wires from the motor to the Power Supply/Controller. Two have broken so far. It seems to me as if whoever crimped the pins on the connectors got a little too agressive, as both breaks have occurred right at the crimp.
However, Shopsmith has been very good about fixing it. The first time I found a broken wire, they sent Fedex out to pick up the Power Supply, fixed it, and sent it back. When the second wire broke on the motor, they sent out Fedex to pick up the entire headstock, and they are going to fix that and send it back. So hopefully, will not take long.
I wish I had not had the problem at all, but they have been very good about taking care of it. I just hope they aren't eating up all their profits with shipping fees. I'd rather see them stay in business.
Will probably take a year before all the major bugs are found and worked out. Shopsmith is testing the market and feedback on this forum is their best source of information!
Question is: Will Shopsmith actually address the bugs with actual repairs or just monitor the bugs for awhile to see if there is an actual problem.
I really hope Shopsmith is not being the middle-man with this exciting new product. I'm waiting for Shopsmith to once again be a leader in the Wordworking world.
I don't believe that Shopsmith is a "middleman" in regards to the PowerPro. True, Tecknatool is the vendor for the motor, however, shopsmith has always purchased their motors from other vendors, ie: A.O Smith, Emerson, ect., so this situation is not really different from a manufacturing standpoint.
It is obvious that Shopsmith has designed the DVR motor controller, even to the point of making/designing a control panel that will fit into the same opening as the old speed dial. Having undergone the DIY conversion to PowerPro, I think they have done an incredible job of designing the unit to fit into the old headstock.
riot_nrrd wrote:I am facing this problem too. My PP upgrade was a DIY kit, and I have had problems with the speed sensor wires from the motor to the Power Supply/Controller. Two have broken so far. It seems to me as if whoever crimped the pins on the connectors got a little too agressive, as both breaks have occurred right at the crimp.
However, Shopsmith has been very good about fixing it. The first time I found a broken wire, they sent Fedex out to pick up the Power Supply, fixed it, and sent it back. When the second wire broke on the motor, they sent out Fedex to pick up the entire headstock, and they are going to fix that and send it back. So hopefully, will not take long.
I wish I had not had the problem at all, but they have been very good about taking care of it. I just hope they aren't eating up all their profits with shipping fees. I'd rather see them stay in business.
Previously Shopsmith production folks worked with a very limited number of wires. The wires that were there were all associated with AC power distribution. The power cords were probably purchased with connectors already crimped on. Now it seems they may be working more with crimped connectors and have not yet gotten the hang of it. Quality Control and training, that is what it is all about.
Am using the PowerPro daily in the making of toys. I am happy with it's performance, but as I have said earlier, it is not perfect. Although I considered my older unit perfect, the new one has extended RPM range and reverse that makes it the preferred machine.
I have had clatter/bang shuttering of the PP headstock at times, and am patiently waiting for Wes to see if he can come up with a computer fix. In addition to the origional issues I have found some new symptoms (#2,3 &4) that may help describe the issue(s) in my headstock.
1) When using the bandsaw (950 RPM) - whenever the blade gets into a little bind (and I mean little) the headstock sometimes has fits of knocking noises along with sharp vibrations. One time it shook violently enough to loosen the hub from the drive spindle.
2) When running at 250 RPM with no load, I can detect a small knock that occurs with each revolution of the motor. A screwdriver stethoscope tells me the knock is coming from the power module, not the motor.
3) After sawing several crosscuts through a 12" board - a re-start of the saw at speed gives the headstock a brief knocking and shuttering at about 600 to 700 RPM while the unit is gaining speed.
4) I have found that bandsawing with the saw blade attached (something that is not recommended) the bandsaw operations will no longer cause the knocking and vibrations mentioned in #1. My guess is the saw blade, acting as a flywheel dampens the undesirable effects. This is now my favored method of bandsawing.
Octogenarian's have an earned right to be a curmudgeon.
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
charlese wrote:Am using the PowerPro daily in the making of toys. I am happy with it's performance, but as I have said earlier, it is not perfect. Although I considered my older unit perfect, the new one has extended RPM range and reverse that makes it the preferred machine.
I have had clatter/bang shuttering of the PP headstock at times, and am patiently waiting for Wes to see if he can come up with a computer fix. In addition to the origional issues I have found some new symptoms (#2,3 &4) that may help describe the issue(s) in my headstock.
1) When using the bandsaw (950 RPM) - whenever the blade gets into a little bind (and I mean little) the headstock sometimes has fits of knocking noises along with sharp vibrations. One time it shook violently enough to loosen the hub from the drive spindle.
2) When running at 250 RPM with no load, I can detect a small knock that occurs with each revolution of the motor. A screwdriver stethoscope tells me the knock is coming from the power module, not the motor.
3) After sawing several crosscuts through a 12" board - a re-start of the saw at speed gives the headstock a brief knocking and shuttering at about 600 to 700 RPM while the unit is gaining speed.
4) I have found that bandsawing with the saw blade attached (something that is not recommended) the bandsaw operations will no longer cause the knocking and vibrations mentioned in #1. My guess is the saw blade, acting as a flywheel dampens the undesirable effects. This is now my favored method of bandsawing.
