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fiatben wrote:I have found that deciding on a paint scheme may be the hardest part of all this. I looked at the hammered paints, liked them, appreciated that it could basically make it look original, didn't want the hassle of trying to get local big box to special order verde green and finally decided that this is my toy for my shop for my use and enjoyment, so it is OK to be a bit different and, well, we'll see what you guys think when it's done.

Well! I was going to say 'hammered will cover the pits pretty well and the texture will tend to obscure them'.

If the pitting is too obvious with 'smooth' paint, perhaps a couple of coats of clear finish followed by sanding will 'fill up' the pits.

Oh I totally agree with the 'this is mine, I will do as I see fit' philosophy re color scheme. If for some unforeseen reason a poor choice is made, only the instigator feels any 'pain'.:D
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E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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beeg wrote:How about trying the electro bath treatment for the rust?
I know of no procedure that 'gets rid of the pits'. A hole is a hole. Best that can be done is to clean it out to prevent further rusting.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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JPG40504 wrote:More on this subject!

https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3823


As Mickyd found out, it can also compensate for mis alignment of an spt to the aux shaft(which may vary depending on eccentric[elt tension] adjustment).

The new off set mounting tubes allow adjusting spt independently from the tube/twist stop screw.

Dusty: Your frame must be twisted(tubes not parallel). I am referring to all four being parallel. The legs will compensate for any floor unevenness etc. Use that wixey to check them! Two planes!(end to end, front to rear)
You may very well be correct and I will continue to investigate what appears to be a very isolated problem and therefore is most likely an operator induced situation.

What made the bell ring was my realization that when I lower the tie bar into place and lock it down, the tie bar shifts side ways (toward the outfeed side). It moves about 1/4"+ as it is locks down.

Also, the carriage and headstock are more difficult to slide at the right end as compared to the left end of the tubes. This situation, if I recall correctly, did not exist until I installed the lift assist. Everything worked and aligned so I get it no additional thought. Then I learn that there has been a modification to the design of the lift assist and the difference between the before and after configurations suggest to me that the lift assist, if not installed very carefully, could cause some problems.

I have disconnected the lift assist and am in the process of reinstalling (very carefully and consistent with all instructions). I would be done by now except that I have spent more time in the bathroom the last two days than on the computer. That siege seems to be over and I'll get back to what is fun and important.
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thought about it

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beeg wrote:How about trying the electro bath treatment for the rust?
I've thought about it. Surely I could find something around here big enough to both legs. At this point, I'm thinking a light sanding, good primer and paint and be happy with it. Again, wanting to refurbish more than restore. I intend to try to wear this one out.

Now, if I could get a 2nd one cheap enough, then ........
'55 Greenie #292284 (Mar-55), '89 SS 510 #020989, Mark VII #408551 (sold 10/14/12), SS Band Saw, (SS 500 #36063 (May-79) now gone to son-in-law as of 11-11), Magna bandsaw, Magna jointer 16185 (May-54), Magna belt sander SS28712 (Dec-82), Magna jigsaw SS4397 (Dec-78), SS biscuit joiner, Zyliss (knockoff) vise, 20+ hand planes, 60s Craftsman tablesaw, CarbaTec mini-lathe, and the usual pile of tools. Hermit of the Hills Woodworks, a hillbilly in the foothills of the Ozarks, scraping by.
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A long past due update

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Well, I did finish putting the "Greenie" back together, although there are still little details that would be a more complete job. Still, I decided I needed to be making sawdust and getting use out of it, which I have.

My "greenie" hard at work:
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yeah, yeah, I know, not a conventional paint scheme, but you know what? no matter how cluttered my shop gets, I can always find my SS!!!
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'55 Greenie #292284 (Mar-55), '89 SS 510 #020989, Mark VII #408551 (sold 10/14/12), SS Band Saw, (SS 500 #36063 (May-79) now gone to son-in-law as of 11-11), Magna bandsaw, Magna jointer 16185 (May-54), Magna belt sander SS28712 (Dec-82), Magna jigsaw SS4397 (Dec-78), SS biscuit joiner, Zyliss (knockoff) vise, 20+ hand planes, 60s Craftsman tablesaw, CarbaTec mini-lathe, and the usual pile of tools. Hermit of the Hills Woodworks, a hillbilly in the foothills of the Ozarks, scraping by.
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I like it! There are enough " conventional" things and people around! I kind think ' " you ain't one of em", I like that as well.;)
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Does it glow at night? It needs lights to show off the true colors. And, then a glass window to keep the rubber neckers from touching it. Looks really good. Hoping to see pics of projects.:D
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Gilmer belt

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I doubt that the upper belt is the wrong one. That model only came with the cogged gilmer style belt and I seriously doubt you could find any belt that would fit that machine unless it was manufactured for the SS.
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Gilmer belt

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I doubt that the upper belt is the wrong one. That model only came with the cogged gilmer style belt and I seriously doubt you could find any belt that would fit that machine unless it was manufactured for the SS.





fiatben wrote:For those who read my earlier posts about the band saw, I apologize in advance for any redundancy, but being a true newbie, I realize this is where I should have started.

Fifteen days ago I became the latest beau of a diamond in the rough, "Lady Green," a greenie, s/n 292284. She is a few years older than I am, having been brought into existence in March of 1955 (versus my own birth in June of '57). And even though she was covered in dust from disuse for the past several years, it was love at first sight, especially when I saw her wearing a band saw on the backend! So, even though the guy was only asking $450, I told my sad tale of unemployment coupled with my aspirations of making my way in the world by manipulating wood, and he agreed to $400.

I came back the next day with my dad's pickup, driving in a slight rain, and with the help of another guy who just happened to be standing around, we put Lady Green in the back of the truck, laid her over for the ride, put the little stuff and band saw up in the cab, covered her headstock with a garbage bag and headed home. Weather favored her as it quit raining just as I left his shop and remained dry until after I got back home.

I once had a Shopsmith. As best I remember this was about 1996 and it came with almost everything, including the band saw, jointer, and belt sander. I spent my last $1300 that time and I loved that machine. But I was young and foolish. I didn't care about maintenance, only where the on/off switch was and how to hook things up to it. Life changes and I ended up selling all my woodworking stuff, even though it hurt. I've missed having an SS ever since.

But no more!! I now am getting to know this new lady in my life. However, I fear this will be a lengthy courtship (renovation) before we actually begin making beautiful music together (ahhh, the sound of wood being cut).

I will (or at least it is my intention to) post pics and updates as I progress. In part, because I have been inspired by the work, words and pics of many of you. Unfortunately I was already reading the forum and watching videos before I got my camera out, so even the first shots show the back cover off the headstock and the band saw opened up. Still these were before anything serious happened.

So where am I now? Tonight I built a cradle for the headstock, inspired by the one in Engler's Sawdust Sessions and reviving a goldie and now my headstock is on a worktable. However, my camera's battery went dead, so no pictures until tomorrow (later today?).

Known issues: the quill does not spring return after being extended. Everything seems a bit stiff even though the unit turns on, runs through the speed range and does not sound rough, and everything I can turn feels fairly smooth.

The speed control seems to sit at an angle to the body. And the threaded part of the locking mechanism on the table height lock has been bent. The bench tubes are rusty and the way tubes need a good polishing.

Observations made: it is definitely an early one, having the sandcast heaadstock without an access hole behind the nameplate. However, the belts have been replaced at some point with the lower belt stamped "Shopsmith" and the upper belt stamped "Goodyear." I question if the upper belt is correct.

But, overall, I'm pretty please, and I'm looking forward to this dating every evening as we get to know each other and I fix everything that's wrong with her. (Don't you wish you could do that with your spouse?)

I know I will have lots of questions, but that is ok because I know you guys will have lots of answers.

Let the journey begin................

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My Greenie

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Hi from one guy with a car name to another. I am picking up my first Mark V Greenie tomorrow night. I will be most interested in your progress. Please keep us up to date.

This is my first Shopsmith. I always wanted one but he extra bucks were in the way.
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