Choosing Hand Planes

camerio · Post by **camerio** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:24 pm

This is not a hand plane but have you ever seen this tool ?

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:17 am

Camerio
Yes I have one, they are actually fairly common.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:19 am

camerio wrote:This is not a hand plane but have you ever seen this tool ?

Looks like a 'canadian' swiss army knife!:D That is really neat! Does it have a ratchet?

holsgo · Post by **holsgo** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:01 am

To confirm, I do believe that's a #1. Those can go for hundreds of dollars. I've seen a few in the thousands but they had a box and were stored indoors. Do not try and repair/refurbish/update that plane. Leave it just as it is. You can sharpen the blade but that's all. Considering you can't really use it for any real work just bring it inside and store it on a shelf. You can even make a box to display it in.
Check all of the details in http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan1.htm

camerio · Post by **camerio** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:44 am

Hey thanks to all of you for the info. My #1 handplane as to all of my hand planes are indoor in my workshop. And to not store it on the side its is hanging for my chemine in my living room.
To answer a question about the multi hand tool, it does not have a ratchet ...
But does somebody knows the maker and the kind of wood ... it does look like rosewood but not quite ?
I have discovered that my other hand plane was made by Roxton Tool and Mill constructed by William Stephen Bullock a canadian company based in Roxton, Quebec and sold to Stanley rule and level in 1907.
The mill was situated along a river and had a dam of 400 feet, and water was the power to run the mill and made some electricity for the town of Roxton.
I am sorry I almost stole this thread, but I did not know how to start a new one ....

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:35 pm

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camerio wrote:Hey thanks to all of you for the info. My #1 handplane as to all of my hand planes are indoor in my workshop. And to not store it on the side its is hanging for my chemine in my living room.
To answer a question about the multi hand tool, it does not have a ratchet ...
But does somebody knows the maker and the kind of wood ... it does look like rosewood but not quite ?
I have discovered that my other hand plane was made by Roxton Tool and Mill constructed by William Stephen Bullock a canadian company based in Roxton, Quebec and sold to Stanley rule and level in 1907.
The mill was situated along a river and had a dam of 400 feet, and water was the power to run the mill and made some electricity for the town of Roxton.
I am sorry I almost stole this thread, but I did not know how to start a new one ....

At the top of any page, click on either the 'Shopsmith Forums' or sub Forum (Main Woodworking Forum). . . (Beginning Woodworking) and click on the 'new post'(blueish upper leftish corner) and 'fill in the blanks'!:)

If you click on the S F or M W F, you will have to select down to the 'forum' you wish to create the thread in.

NO that is NOT Mon Wed Fri!:D

BTW #1 is 1 1/4 x 5 1/2" according to blood & gore.
.......#2 is 1 5/8 x 7"
.......length of the sole, the width of the cutter,

So you may indeed have a #1!!!!!!!!!

camerio · Post by **camerio** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:45 pm

Oh ! the width of the cutter ... I see
so I have 1 1/4 for the cutter, and 5 1/2 for the sole and indeed I have a #1
Thanks for confirming that.
The biggest hand plane that I have is marked Bailey on the cast of metal and on the end of the wood sole Bailey and under Stanley rule and level co # 29. (picture # 323 a couple of replies ahead )
I guess those were used for bigger work... ?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:55 pm

camerio wrote:Oh ! the width of the cutter ... I see
so I have 1 1/4 for the cutter, and 5 1/2 for the sole and indeed I have a #1
Thanks for confirming that.
The biggest hand plane that I have is marked Bailey on the cast of metal and on the end of the wood sole Bailey and under Stanley rule and level co # 29. (picture # 323 a couple of replies ahead )
I guess those were used for bigger work... ?

For longer boards(or carpenters with longer arms):D. Actually the longer the plane sole, the flatter the board/edge becomes(and the longer it takes to get it there).

fiatben · Post by **fiatben** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:09 pm

Today I noticed that some of the planes on ebay do not go that much cheaper than brand new planes from some of the better known suppliers. While I know this is comparing old Stanleys to new imports (most likely), for a guy using planes in the shop with no intention of converting the shop into a museum, what are the "gotchas" for buying reasonably priced new planes? Honestly, I'd love something from Veritas or Lee Valley, but a part-time income simply precludes that.

With that in mind, anyone with any experience with the hand planes sold by Grizzly?
http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2011/Main/331

holsgo · Post by **holsgo** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:52 pm

Mostly the new ones that are cheap are cheap for a reason. Most of the cheap comes in the form of a bad frog. Bad I mean either the frog is bent sheet metal like an old ParPlus plane or it may be cast but with a horrible mate to the sole. What I mean by horrible is that you could spend hours honing the bottom to make a perfect match to the sole. Next you would tell the difference in the adjustment and the lever cap screw. Both will be loose fitting on the cheap planes. The sole, of course, will need lapping and the mouth may indeed be too large. All of these things go together to take all the fun out of a plane. The weight of these cheaper ones is far less than one of the older ones as well.
I should say that one of the best cuts I ever had was on an old Parplus plane I refurbished. A #5 size. For $50 you'd spend on the cheap planes I would buy a nice but older #5 or #6. You should see #6's on ebay for about $25 and on down for 5's and 4's. The 7 and 8 will fetch about $60 or more. Don't be afraid of Millers Falls, Siegley, or craftsman.

Choosing Hand Planes

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