Crafters Station

[damagi]

Has anyone converted their powerstation into a crafters station? Reversing motor is one missing piece, and I believe the carriage replacement is the other piece. I know nick posted plans for a carriage type clamp so you could use it as a pen lathe.

[dusty]

Has anyone converted their powerstation into a crafters station? Reversing motor is one missing piece, and I believe the carriage replacement is the other piece. I know nick posted plans for a carriage type clamp so you could use it as a pen lathe.

I have not converted one but you already know I have one. If differs from a PowerStation in these ways:

It has two switched. One turns the motor on in one direction and the other turns the motor on in the other direction. I avoided using the word reverse.

You need a bracket to hold the table. It serves the function of the carriage. In reality, it need not slide back and forth. Once positioned and aligned there is no functional need to relocate it.

There is some circuitry consisting of relays and wiring that facilitates the reversal of motor direction. A standard PowerStation motor can be used (and reversed by that circuitry). No motor mode required.

I used mine as a Table Saw and Sanding Station when I first got it. I was doing some FREE lance work at one of the kids homes and did not want to transport a Shopsmith. Right now, I use it as a mounting station for my Shopsmith router table. It has been that way for months.

If you are going to be working on one and need help, let me know. I'll dig out my notes just in case.

[damagi]

I have not converted one but you already know I have one. If differs from a PowerStation in these ways:

It has two switched. One turns the motor on in one direction and the other turns the motor on in the other direction. I avoided using the word reverse.

You need a bracket to hold the table. It serves the function of the carriage. In reality, it need not slide back and forth. Once positioned and aligned there is no functional need to relocate it.

There is some circuitry consisting of relays and wiring that facilitates the reversal of motor direction. A standard PowerStation motor can be used (and reversed by that circuitry). No motor mode required.

I used mine as a Table Saw and Sanding Station when I first got it. I was doing some FREE lance work at one of the kids homes and did not want to transport a Shopsmith. Right now, I use it as a mounting station for my Shopsmith router table. It has been that way for months.

If you are going to be working on one and need help, let me know. I'll dig out my notes just in case.

Could you post some detail shots of the carriage bracket?

I saw the diagram in http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showpos ... stcount=52, which looks promising. Any info on the relays would also be great.

Thanks!

[dusty]

Could you post some detail shots of the carriage bracket?

I saw the diagram in https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?p=20477&postcount=52, which looks promising. Any info on the relays would also be great.

Thanks!

Yes. I will try to locate all that I have tomorrow. I know I started to do some drawings in AutoCad and I don't know how far I had gotten before my computer crashed. I have recovered those files - but not sure I have the ability to read them now.

The wiring diagram (above link) is accurate if you can decipher it. I had to redraw it in order to understand it. I'll resurrect those too (at least I'll try).

Remind me please if you don't see something posted in a day or two.

[billmayo]

I plan to have both a 3/4 HP and a 1 1/8 HP reversible motors available soon. I can rebuild and add the reversible option to the GE and AO Smith motors, not the Emerson motors. I can rebuild the GE and AO Smith motors for 220 VAC input power (more difficult) if desired.

Contact me if any questions. Thanks.

[billmayo]

Could you post some detail shots of the carriage bracket?

I saw the diagram in http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showpos ... stcount=52, which looks promising. Any info on the relays would also be great.

Thanks!

The motor in the diagram is a reversible motor made specifically for Shopsmith Crafters Station (notice it has 6 input wires). It is not the 3/4 HP or 1 1/8 motor used in the Mark V. Thanks.

[damagi]

The motor in the diagram is a reversible motor made specifically for Shopsmith Crafters Station (notice it has 6 input wires). It is not the 3/4 HP or 1 1/8 motor used in the Mark V. Thanks.

But is the crafters station motor and the power station motor the same - that is the question. I have a powerstation, so if its a matter of modding then thats no big deal.

[charlese]

I accquired a crafters station over the weekend. During tests the saw side would start right up and the acc. side occasionally sticks and trips the breaker. Is this something that can be easily fixed or did I buy a bad unit? The orginal owner told me he never used the acc. side and with the bandsaw and jointer were not completly assembled so I tend to belive him. Could my problem be lack of use or cold tempatures.

Thanks

Brad

FWIW - Sorry I missed your posting date, but since the post has been revised - - -

I bought a Crafter's Station - had the identical problem as you. The accessory side would start if I gave the spindle a twist at the same time as trowing the switch. After conferring with Shopsmith, I sent it back and they sent me a new unit. After a week or so, it too had the same problem. I then bought a 510 and sent back the Crafter's Station. Soon after this they stopped making the Crafter's Station.

There is a way to make the CS run. Dusty got his going!

[dusty]

FWIW - Sorry I missed your posting date, but since the post has been revised - - -

I bought a Crafter's Station - had the identical problem as you. The accessory side would start if I gave the spindle a twist at the same time as trowing the switch. After conferring with Shopsmith, I sent it back and they sent me a new unit. After a week or so, it too had the same problem. I then bought a 510 and sent back the Crafter's Station. Soon after this they stopped making the Crafter's Station.

There is a way to make the CS run. Dusty got his going!

Mine had been hacked on by someone who knew nothing about wiring and he finally gave up. This probably happened when he fried the motor.

I bought a new motor and then rewired the unit. Once I finished the rewire job I never have experienced what is being described here as a startup problem.

Cold weather could be a factor (stiff belts/thick lub) but why just in one direction. I don't think so!

The relays used to apply and switch power for reversal would be my first suspicion. Badly corroded contacts would reduce voltage to the motor windings thus effect startup. A thorough visual inspection of all wiring connection points. Clean the motor and OIL it. YES -- OIL it. This motor is different than other Shopsmith motors.

If all else fails, ship it to me. I can keep it warm.

[damagi]

It has two switched. One turns the motor on in one direction and the other turns the motor on in the other direction. I avoided using the word reverse.

I just realized what you meant by this. There are two power switches on opposite sides. Whichever one you use will cause the motor to spin towards you. That makes sense.

Its definitely goofy that the speed control handle is on the "back" when in "saw" mode.

The motor in the diagram is a reversible motor made specifically for Shopsmith Crafters Station (notice it has 6 input wires). It is not the 3/4 HP or 1 1/8 motor used in the Mark V. Thanks.

Thats no big deal. I have my powerstation working just fine. If its just a matter of adding a relay/switch to get reversing on my powerstation then I might as well try. I have a Mark V motor in the other thread that I am working on, but that is for a seperate setup.