Am I chasing my tail
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Am I chasing my tail
I recently installed an aluminum table and Kreg bandsaw fence. I spent an hour or so today trying to adjust the fence for blade drift and I still don't have it right. I have seen the Resaw guides but was really hoping not to need one, because I have quite a bit of milling/resawing to do. Can I get the fence set so to cut true without a resaw guide or am I chasing my tail?
Brad
Fenton, MI
'90 SS 500 updated to 520
SS ProPlaner w/ power base, Power base, Band Saw, Jig Saw, Belt Sander, Strip Sander, Jointer and Dust Collector
Fenton, MI
'90 SS 500 updated to 520
SS ProPlaner w/ power base, Power base, Band Saw, Jig Saw, Belt Sander, Strip Sander, Jointer and Dust Collector
Boost;
Are you sure it is the fence? Improper blade tension can cause the blade to wander. Make sure the top and bottom blade guards are aligned properly. I have done some resawing (not much) and have had no trouble just using the standard SS blades. Also blade types can cause a problem. If it is a stamped blade it will not perform as well as a blade that has "milled" teeth. Inconsistant tooth set on a blade will also cause a blade to wander.
Bill V
Are you sure it is the fence? Improper blade tension can cause the blade to wander. Make sure the top and bottom blade guards are aligned properly. I have done some resawing (not much) and have had no trouble just using the standard SS blades. Also blade types can cause a problem. If it is a stamped blade it will not perform as well as a blade that has "milled" teeth. Inconsistant tooth set on a blade will also cause a blade to wander.
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There are several things that are critical to resawing. The blade must be sharp and cutting the same on each side so that it does not drift. The table and blade need to be at a perfect 90 degrees to each other. Blade tension is important and must be "played with" to find the best setting. Guides should be set to the blade and not the blade to the guide. A single point contact area is better than using the entire fence. This can be accomplished by using an auxiliary fence with a raised contact area. I highly recommend these resaw blades from Highland Woodworking. Good luck with your resawing project. In my openion the Shopsmith band saw will resaw as well as any other on the market if set up properly.
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/wood ... to137.aspx
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/wood ... to137.aspx
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Mark
2017 Power Pro Mark 7
2002 50th anniversary model 520
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Mark
2017 Power Pro Mark 7
2002 50th anniversary model 520
and a few other woodworking tools.
After installing the Kreg bandsaw fence last Summer my son and I were able to do some extraordinary resawing, using the Shopsmith 5/8" blade. I reported on this fence on the Lumberjocks forum. http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/1682
We used the standard method to compensaate for blade drift; Take a straight piece of wood, any kind, with dimensions approx 2"x3/4"x30", and draw a straight line down the middle the entire length. Then very carefully freehand cut down this line about half way. Stop the bandsaw without disturbing the position of the test piece, and clamp it in place, again being careful to not move it. You will note that it is cocked at a slight angle to the table & blade. You have defined the drift. Loosen the fence and move it against the clamped test piece and lock the fence at this angle.
This method has always worked for me. Note that if you change blades you will have to repeat this proceedure, as all bandsaw blades are individuals.
We used the standard method to compensaate for blade drift; Take a straight piece of wood, any kind, with dimensions approx 2"x3/4"x30", and draw a straight line down the middle the entire length. Then very carefully freehand cut down this line about half way. Stop the bandsaw without disturbing the position of the test piece, and clamp it in place, again being careful to not move it. You will note that it is cocked at a slight angle to the table & blade. You have defined the drift. Loosen the fence and move it against the clamped test piece and lock the fence at this angle.
This method has always worked for me. Note that if you change blades you will have to repeat this proceedure, as all bandsaw blades are individuals.
On one hand it is good to know it can be done and on the other, it makes it very frustrating. I am using the 5/8 SS blade, without a lot of use, so I hope it is still pretty sharp. I will need to play with it more this week.
Brad
Fenton, MI
'90 SS 500 updated to 520
SS ProPlaner w/ power base, Power base, Band Saw, Jig Saw, Belt Sander, Strip Sander, Jointer and Dust Collector
Fenton, MI
'90 SS 500 updated to 520
SS ProPlaner w/ power base, Power base, Band Saw, Jig Saw, Belt Sander, Strip Sander, Jointer and Dust Collector
boostfan wrote:I recently installed an aluminum table and Kreg bandsaw fence. I spent an hour or so today trying to adjust the fence for blade drift and I still don't have it right. I have seen the Resaw guides but was really hoping not to need one, because I have quite a bit of milling/resawing to do. Can I get the fence set so to cut true without a resaw guide or am I chasing my tail?
I have not had the best constant results using an adjusted straight fence, but a single point guide has always worked for me without fail.
As mentioned above, there are quite a few factors that will limit straight re-sawing. I've found the single point fence to simplify the needed adjustments. Sometimes changing grain will cause a blade to change drift directions. The single point allows one to adjust instantaneously to keep a straight line. Just make sure the tension is set correctly and as mbcabnetmaker pointed out, set the guide blocks to the blade after tension is set. Using cool blocks has been best for me, as they can be set directly onto the blade with no space allowance.
Kreg sells a single point fence. also you can make your own. Actually kreg's is a curved rewaw guide that fits onto their fence. If you scroll down this link you will find a review of their 4 1/2" resaw guide. I made my resaw fence to mimic the Kreg guide. (Photos below)http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/kregbandsawfence.htm
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Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
I have the entire Kreg Fence. My favorite part it the resaw guide which I use nearly everyday. That little Jewell is worth every nickle. Fjimpcharlese wrote: Kreg sells a single point fence. also you can make your own. Actually kreg's is a curved rewaw guide that fits onto their fence. If you scroll down this link you will find a review of their 4 1/2" resaw guide. I made my resaw fence to mimic the Kreg guide. (Photos below)http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/kregbandsawfence.htm
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Lakewood, Colorado:)
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I didn't pass on the guide for money, I just struggled to see the point in buying a fence if I am only using a single point. It seems like I could have built a simple fixture for doing that and skip the fence all together. Do use your fence for anything more than a part to hold your single point resaw guide on.fjimp wrote:I have the entire Kreg Fence. My favorite part it the resaw guide which I use nearly everyday. That little Jewell is worth every nickle. Fjimp
Brad
Fenton, MI
'90 SS 500 updated to 520
SS ProPlaner w/ power base, Power base, Band Saw, Jig Saw, Belt Sander, Strip Sander, Jointer and Dust Collector
Fenton, MI
'90 SS 500 updated to 520
SS ProPlaner w/ power base, Power base, Band Saw, Jig Saw, Belt Sander, Strip Sander, Jointer and Dust Collector
Yes I do use the fence. Your original question as I understood focused on the re sawing guide. Thus my answer. I like the miniscule ability of measuring the setting for the fence and the guide. I use my bandsaw a great deal and have enjoyed it far more after switching to the new system. If you see no value in the adjustment portion of the guide then make your own re saw guide and see if it meets your needs. If not you can always upgrade later. Fjimpboostfan wrote:I didn't pass on the guide for money, I just struggled to see the point in buying a fence if I am only using a single point. It seems like I could have built a simple fixture for doing that and skip the fence all together. Do use your fence for anything more than a part to hold your single point resaw guide on.
F. Jim Parks
Lakewood, Colorado:)
When the love of power is replaced by the power of love the world will have a chance for survival.
Lakewood, Colorado:)
When the love of power is replaced by the power of love the world will have a chance for survival.