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Wow. Talk about being in the right place at the right time! That great.
Make today a day that lets you smile!
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fiatben wrote:Then there's all these pieces which seem to be some kind of clamping/vise rig:

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and here it all is kinda put together. It seems to have a couple of plastic vise face covers and couple of aluminum ones. I'm not sure how the little triangular castings fit in.

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Again, anyone know what this is and have some instructions for it???
As noted already, you have a zyliss setup. You have the drill chuck adapter that allows your zyliss to function as a lathe/drill press.

The lathe banjo could be adapted for use with the shopsmith by following the example of the Universal Lathe Tool Rest.
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Commandment number 10 is all about not coveting your neighbors house or wife. Since you are not my neighbor, but a fellow forum member, and a SS is not specifically mentioned, I guess I can covet!:D Nice find, enjoy the treasure hunt for the "what is it" stuff. I have one located, ( an older 500) and it is of : great sentimental value" to the owner. I may get it yet, being 1: related, 2:willing to restore and use it, and 3: the only one in the family who thinks it is not a toy!. I am cultivating all three in the hopes that I am judged worthy and eccentric enough to get it before it is worthless. Good news is it is in a dry climate and very well preserved. The previous owner was very very anal about caring for stuff and considered a bit eccentric himself! Family legends abound about
Saw dust heals many wounds. RLTW
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the good news

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dlbristol wrote:Commandment number 10 is all about not coveting your neighbors house or wife. Since you are not my neighbor, but a fellow forum member, and a SS is not specifically mentioned, I guess I can covet!:D Nice find, enjoy the treasure hunt for the "what is it" stuff. I have one located, ( an older 500) and it is of : great sentimental value" to the owner. I may get it yet, being 1: related, 2:willing to restore and use it, and 3: the only one in the family who thinks it is not a toy!. I am cultivating all three in the hopes that I am judged worthy and eccentric enough to get it before it is worthless. Good news is it is in a dry climate and very well preserved. The previous owner was very very anal about caring for stuff and considered a bit eccentric himself! Family legends abound about
The good news is that a Shopsmith never becomes useless or worthless. My baby is a '55 model and as good as the day she was built, maybe better. I think the undersold feature of a SS is that even the oldest one is still factory supported and parts are available. And with this forum of resourceful and knowledgeable people, we never have to worry about one becoming obsolete.
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Ben glad to hear you finally got one since you have waited so long. Going to pick up an extra bandsaw this week, Picked it up for $50 from a guy locally. Really did not need a third bandsaw but could not pass this up. I keep two set up, one for resawing and the other for detail work. I think I will work this one over to make sure it runs as good as it looks and let a buddy of mine use it on his 510 I found for him last summer. Just have to keep your eyes open.
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All the good stuff

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wlhayesmfs wrote:Ben glad to hear you finally got one since you have waited so long. Going to pick up an extra bandsaw this week, Picked it up for $50 from a guy locally. Really did not need a third bandsaw but could not pass this up. I keep two set up, one for resawing and the other for detail work. I think I will work this one over to make sure it runs as good as it looks and let a buddy of mine use it on his 510 I found for him last summer. Just have to keep your eyes open.
Yeah, you guys over in Tulsa get all the good stuff and great deals. My jointer came off craigslist in Tulsa. Just glad one of my son-in-laws was willing to go pick it up.

A 3rd bandsaw? Now you got me thinking I need a second one. I like the idea of one dedicated to resawing and one for everything else. But first I'd really like to pick up a belt sander. Maybe I should keep a closer eye on the ads in your area.

But I'm pretty happy. Of course, now I need the tubes for the floating tables, both the "runners" and the legs. Maybe I'll get lucky on ebay. Or does someone out there have an extra set.

While I'm on the subject, can I substitute some other tubing for the runners that support the tables? Or is it some really off-the-wall O.D.?
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I would think you could use a dial caliper on the tubes on the tables and check ID/OD and then go and get some piping that might work unless as you mentioned it is a non-standard dimension. Nice find for sure and I couldn't be happier for you as I know you have been jonesin' for a while about not finding any good deals around your area. Have fun with it. If you don't have any luck with the quill problem I would just get on off Ebay and be done with it. After screwing around for many hours on all three of my Mark's I think I might just buy something used if i had a problem like that one. Although if I had that problem and knowing how I am I would probably take it as a personal challenge to get it off and save the assembly. You could try a die grinder on the chuck and cut it parallel to the quill shaft and then hit it with a hammer and chisel to see if you can split it to free it up. I would support the quill shaft from below on the ways so that I didn't damage the quill shaft before hitting it with the hammer and chisel. This is how we used to get bearing races off of the cars in the dealership and marina I used to work at. You just have to be careful using the grinder so that you don't cut too deeply and score the quill shaft. You only need to get it close and then the sharp smack with the hammer/chisel should split it at the cut line which will free it up enough to get it off. A new drill chuck is cheap and easy to get but then again so is a quill assembly.
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After soaking overnight, the chuck relinquished its hold on the quill without too much of a fight. The dead center also finally came out of the tailstock.

I've been playing with the Zylis vise trying to figure out how it all works together. Even found a manual online, but the pics are fuzzy, no diagram, and not really much instructional value. Still, it has me pointed in the right direction.

I'd still really love for someone to figure out the Craftsman jig that came with it:
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It's brand new and looks cool. I just have absolutely no idea what to do with it.

I'm building a shopping list for this machine, and trying to remember all the things I've learned from this forum over the past year. I know I need all the tubes for the tables. I also am ebaying for upper/lower saw guards. And I'm trying to remember the reason for arbors specific to the 510 versus the old 500s I've got, but that just means some time searching the forum threads.

Basically I just need to clean everything so the stuff slides/moves/turns smoothly in all the right places. I don't even think I need to do any repainting anywhere. And then decide on how to set up both the 510 and the 500 for my most common needs. Obviously, with the larger motor, larger table system and double bearing quill, the 510 will become my saw/jointer unit. The 500 will probably become a sander/bandsaw primarily and drilling as needed.

Yeah, I'm pretty happy and excited about finding this, even if it will take some doing to fill the gaps in its accessories list. But, hey, that's part of the adventure.
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Post by heathicus »

Congrats, Ben! Patience pays off. Shopsmiths are RARE around here too, so I understand the frustration, but I just picked up my 3rd ER for $50.
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Post by wa2crk »

Ben;
The difference between the 500 arbors and the 510/520 arbors is the length of the area to the left of the blade.
The "neck" on the 510/520 arbors is longer to compensate for the larger tables.
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