Quill Assembly - does not retract automatically
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Quill Assembly - does not retract automatically
Guys, I am new to this posting stuff. All you experienced ones, please help me out. I just picked up a 1973/74 Model 500. Has some rust but runs. Should the quill assembly retract on its own? (Hopefully I am using the correct terminology) In other words, if I use the drill press, I must use slight force in causing the bit to drill and then use slight force to cause the bit to retract. Is this normal?
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rickdehaan61 wrote:Guys, I am new to this posting stuff. All you experienced ones, please help me out. I just picked up a 1973/74 Model 500. Has some rust but runs. Should the quill assembly retract on its own? (Hopefully I am using the correct terminology) In other words, if I use the drill press, I must use slight force in causing the bit to drill and then use slight force to cause the bit to retract. Is this normal?
Yes it should retract 'automatically'.
However before you use it much, read the post at the top of this thread and perform some maintenance operations. You know nothing of the history of that machine maintenance wise. You will be more satisfied with it if it is performing correctly.
Correcting the quill retraction(or lack of it) can be found in one of the sawdust sessions.
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rickdehaan61 wrote:Guys, I am new to this posting stuff. All you experienced ones, please help me out. I just picked up a 1973/74 Model 500. Has some rust but runs. Should the quill assembly retract on its own? (Hopefully I am using the correct terminology) In other words, if I use the drill press, I must use slight force in causing the bit to drill and then use slight force to cause the bit to retract. Is this normal?
Yes it should retract 'automatically'.
However before you use it much, read the post at the top of this forum(Maintenance and repair) and perform some maintenance operations. You know nothing of the history of that machine maintenance wise. You will be more satisfied with it if it is performing correctly.
Correcting the quill retraction(or lack of it) can be found in one of the sawdust sessions.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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What does everyone use for lubrication for the quill to keep it moving nicely in the housing? I have been using Johnsons wax but it doesn't seem to last very long. Would some type of dry graphite work better???
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wannabewoodworker wrote:What does everyone use for lubrication for the quill to keep it moving nicely in the housing? I have been using Johnsons wax but it doesn't seem to last very long. Would some type of dry graphite work better???
A bit messy, but if you try it, rub in in to the smooth part of the quill shaft. The rack teeth is not the part dragging.(unless quill feed bearings are dry or teeth are packed with crud)
However more tension is IMHO a longer lasting 'solution'.
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my experience
I bought a '55 Greenie last year and the quill on it acted exactly like you describe. Turned out that it was simply so impacted with sawdust that it could barely move. Once I brushed all the crud out of the teeth, it moved very smoothly. And once I replaced the quill bearing it turned smooth too!
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JPG40504 wrote:A bit messy, but if you try it, rub in in to the smooth part of the quill shaft. The rack teeth is not the part dragging.(unless quill feed bearings are dry or teeth are packed with crud)
However more tension is IMHO a longer lasting 'solution'.
I cannot tension the quill return spring anymore than it already is physically will not turn any further so it is as tight as it will go without breaking the spring. It moves nicely after waxing it but it doesn't stay that way for long. I did oil the inner quill where it slides into the drive assembly. I may try cleaning all the oil off of it and waxing that instead of oiling it.
Michael Mayo
Senior IT Support Engineer
Soft Designs Inc.
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1960's SS Mark VII, 1954 Greenie, 1983 Mark V, Jointer, Bandsaw, Jigsaw, Dewalt Slider, Delta Super 10, Delta 8" Grinder, Craftsman compressor, Drill Doctor, Kreg PH Jig, Bosch Jigsaw, Craftsman Router and Table...........and adding more all the time....
Senior IT Support Engineer
Soft Designs Inc.
albiemanmike@gmail.com
1960's SS Mark VII, 1954 Greenie, 1983 Mark V, Jointer, Bandsaw, Jigsaw, Dewalt Slider, Delta Super 10, Delta 8" Grinder, Craftsman compressor, Drill Doctor, Kreg PH Jig, Bosch Jigsaw, Craftsman Router and Table...........and adding more all the time....